I don't think they are related at all. I think what Google is trying to do is send a message via the international press. My interpretation of that message after reading a few stories is this.
Google opened up business in China. Google tried to comply with Chinese laws and found it exhausting and cost prohibitive. The other message Google is trying to send is. The Chinese government is sanctioning attacks on our infrastructure looking for information on people who use our service. Google has proof and is sharing that proof with other governments. Google may or may not be living up to the "Do no evil" philosophy. I think they now see that they are doing harm to people in side and out side of China and want to go back to the "Do no evil" philosophy. This also let's the share holders know that the ball in is in China's court. If Google was to continue to do business in China, doing so might hurt the individuals investment in Google. At the end of the day I think it's all about money. -mmiller On Thu, Jan 14, 2010 at 2:54 AM, Robin Wood <[email protected]> wrote: > The media, and maybe Google themselves, are lumping the censorship and > the hacking incident together as a reason to pull out but I don't see > how the two are related. Whether or not they are in China they can > still be targets of Chinese hackers. There is some evidence that the > current lot were going after the accounts of Chinese users but other > companies, such as Adobe, were also attacked so it wasn't all about > one Chinese group attacking another. > > Am I missing something? > > Robin > > 2010/1/14 Michael Miller <[email protected]>: >> I have the same view. They will try to deflect any blame for any >> attack on western corporations. They might raise a stink for a little >> bit. It will be interesting to see what happens to google, if they >> close up shop or raid the google data center. >> >> On Wed, Jan 13, 2010 at 2:12 PM, iamnowonmai <[email protected]> wrote: >>> Like it or not they need us to buy their stuff. I don't see them doing a >>> damn thing personally >>> >>> Michael Miller <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>>It will be interesting to see what China does. They could just take >>>>over Google.cn and seize the server farm as state property. It might >>>>make other companies think twice about doing business in China. >>>> >>>>-mmiller >>>> >>>>On Wed, Jan 13, 2010 at 8:18 AM, Karl Schuttler >>>><[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> In case you didn't see >>>>> it... http://googleblog.blogspot.com/2010/01/new-approach-to-china.html >>>>> >>>>> "We have decided we are no longer willing to continue censoring our >>>>> results >>>>> on Google.cn, and so over the next few weeks we will be discussing with >>>>> the >>>>> Chinese government the basis on which we could operate an unfiltered >>>>> search >>>>> engine within the law, if at all. We recognize that this may well mean >>>>> having to shut down Google.cn, and potentially our offices in China." >>>>> Karl >>>>> On Tue, Jan 12, 2010 at 9:42 PM, Robert Portvliet >>>>> <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> I hope Google pulls out of China... but before they do make every >>>>>> search return >>>>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tiananmen_Square_protests_of_1989 >>>>>> :) >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Tue, Jan 12, 2010 at 6:23 PM, Adrian Crenshaw <[email protected]> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> > Odd, to quote the email: >>>>>> > >>>>>> > Technology Alert >>>>>> > from The Wall Street Journal >>>>>> > >>>>>> > Google said it is "reviewing the feasibility of our business operations >>>>>> > in >>>>>> > China" and may back out of China entirely, as it disclosed it had been >>>>>> > hit >>>>>> > with major cyberattacks it believes originated from the country. >>>>>> > >>>>>> > In a blog post, Google said it detected a "highly sophisticated and >>>>>> > targeted >>>>>> > attack on our corporate infrastructure originating from China" in >>>>>> > mid-December and that the attack resulted in "the theft of intellectual >>>>>> > property from Google." >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > http://online.wsj.com/article/SB126333757451026659.html?mod=djemalertTECH >>>>>> > >>>>>> > Since the WSJ wants you to pay, see: >>>>>> > >>>>>> > http://googleblog.blogspot.com/2010/01/new-approach-to-china.html >>>>>> > >>>>>> > I hope they cover this on ISD tonight. >>>>>> > >>>>>> > Adrian >>>>>> > >>>>>> > _______________________________________________ >>>>>> > Pauldotcom mailing list >>>>>> > [email protected] >>>>>> > http://mail.pauldotcom.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pauldotcom >>>>>> > Main Web Site: http://pauldotcom.com >>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> Robert Portvliet, >>>>>> GPEN, Security + >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> Pauldotcom mailing list >>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>> http://mail.pauldotcom.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pauldotcom >>>>>> Main Web Site: http://pauldotcom.com >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Pauldotcom mailing list >>>>> [email protected] >>>>> http://mail.pauldotcom.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pauldotcom >>>>> Main Web Site: http://pauldotcom.com >>>>> >>>>_______________________________________________ >>>>Pauldotcom mailing list >>>>[email protected] >>>>http://mail.pauldotcom.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pauldotcom >>>>Main Web Site: http://pauldotcom.com >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Pauldotcom mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> http://mail.pauldotcom.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pauldotcom >>> Main Web Site: http://pauldotcom.com >> _______________________________________________ >> Pauldotcom mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://mail.pauldotcom.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pauldotcom >> Main Web Site: http://pauldotcom.com >> > _______________________________________________ > Pauldotcom mailing list > [email protected] > http://mail.pauldotcom.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pauldotcom > Main Web Site: http://pauldotcom.com > _______________________________________________ Pauldotcom mailing list [email protected] http://mail.pauldotcom.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pauldotcom Main Web Site: http://pauldotcom.com
