Allow me space to vent my vexed mind on issue raised here-under. 

In a capitalist society it is a fact that if industrial production were not 
double the value of its costs price in money, there would definitely be no 
commerce. Let alone to expect a didactic discourse from eccentric and maverick 
commentators that we've become used to in this forum. I particularly do not 
entertain this prurient political gibberish and hogwash which we are forever 
being tormented with, in this forum as evinced in this latest discussion of 
Zuma this or Zuma that. And the fact that some of us are forever tickled by 
such a conduct equally place some of us in the league of the intellectually 
obtuse. It must be remembered that Zuma is on record having publicly proclaimed 
himself a saint and been consistent in dodging his day in court for all those 
five years that he was being investigated. He deliberately wasted his time to 
have his day in court its not the other way round and thus must stop being 
mendacious to the masses of our people. The issue of waste of tax payers money 
must not cloud our own judgment on the imperative of the state to prosecute 
where necessary.

I still maintain that Zuma is guilty until proven innocent...period!!! I will 
rest my case.

Any rejoinder or surre-joinders? Playing the question is hypothetical. Izwe 
lethu...

Sebenzile Mlaza
Dept. :Claims 4
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-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] 
Sent: 19 February 2009 03:03
To: [email protected]
Cc: [email protected]; Mlungisi Bafo; Sinethemba Mandyoli; 
[email protected]
Subject: [PAYCO] Re: PAM's pronouncement on Zuma


> Cde Leeuw
Comrades have a tendency of listening selectively and taking issues out
context. What PAM is calling for is the setting of the Commission of
Inquiry into the whole Arms Deal saga, regardless of who said what
previously w.r.t. the matter. Why chase one man in the whole issue whilst
a number of current and former cabinet ministers, and those who are no
more, are implicated in the messy, Arms deal chicanery.

Second, the whole thing is a waste of the taxpayer's money, as if one man
and one man only did have corrupt relationship with those companies that
bidded for Arms deal purchase.

It is a fact that over a period of more than 5 years, JZ has been
investigated, and comrades should also remember what Bulelani Ngcuka said,
as the then Scorpions' Head, he had a prima facie evidence to prosecute
Zuma, deliberately leaving a dark cloud over him.

PAM, comrades do not care to mention this: Has come out in support of the
formation of the United States of Africa, as Cde Muammar Gaddafi has
consistently been saying. WE are for unity of the African people, in the
continent and in the Diaspora.

Some leaders conveniently choose to remain silent, as they did with
Khutsong and similar developments, and start to find fault with those take
the initiative of dealing with political issues, in public political
arena.

Izwe lethu iAfrika

Mawabo

Izwe Lethu
>
> I could not help but left wondering if not utterly dissapointed at PAM's
> pronouncement through its leader,kaPlaatjie, on the Jacob Zuma - Arms
> Deal Sagga. At its announcement about its victory and registration with
> the IEC for the upcoming elections, PAM called for the cancellation of
> Zuma's prosecution. Joining the chorus of those who make unfounded
> statements and misguiding utterances,ka Plaatjie also spoke of a
> political mendling and a whichhunt against Zuma,something we have heard
> enough from the Blades,Vavis and the likes. You might be wondering
> comrades as to why I'm bringing this issue on this forum, but these are
> the very same people,in fact comrades, who swear on the names of
> Sobukwe,Nkrumah,Motopeng and others, and whom we are all Pan Africanists
> with, faction or not. Now for them to make such statements,mimicing the
> aforementioned noncompoops of South African politics, is distgusting to
> say the least.How does Plaatjie lament at Mbeki's dismissal last
> September, but with the very same token, makes the very statemtments
> that sealed Mbeki's fate, that of politlical conspiracy and the related
> gabbage that's used to excuse Zuma from facing the music? If Mr.
> Plaatjie, and anyone who thinks alike on this issue, could answer these
> simple but semi-legal questions maybe I might be convinced; who did
> Shabir Shaik corrupt when he was convicted for corruption; who did he
> bribe and found guilty for, et cetera et cetera.And tell me if there was
> political inteference when Zuma was financially dependent on Shaik for
> over ten years. Can't help but imagine how many people were disturbed by
> that pronouncement. While other opposition parties in their campaigns
> are using Zuma's corruption sagga to boost their chances,Mr' Plaatjie's
> PAM decide to do the opposite, amidst zero chances to be recognised in
> these elections. Wonder what is in for him or his party..For it was
> clearly political chicanery,opportunism and expediency at its worst
> form.
>
> Umhlaba
>
> >
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