Let me correct you Leeu, do not make a wrong assumption. I am not Zuma's
fan nor that of the rulling party. Your selective reading and
understanding of PAM President's satement and leaves musch to be desired.
You seem to have pulled your triggers before even comprehending the
essence of the statement.

As a comrade who is not politically bankrupt, you ought to have done
better than that. PAM is a moving vehicle, we shall roll out our programme
and feel free as arm-chair critics to react to it. Dogs bark at a moving
bus and urinate on a stationary bus.

PAM has been formed, we are moving forward and we are not looking back.
The vision of the United Stated of Africa will be championed by this
vehicle (PAM).




>
> I join the chorus of those who do not take serious anyone who is in
> defence of the morally reprehensible and easily corruptible Zuma,to say
> the least.Concequently,you also are not worthy of being taken serious
> manelisi. How does one within the Pan Africanist fold even begin to
> conceive a defence for the man, is beyond me. Apart from emotions and
> political bankruptcy, the are no logical and rational basis to remain in
> defence of the man. Apart from his deeds, but if you have ever listened
> to him, which I have had bad luck of having had, it is enough for one to
> feel Sorry for the man. Sorry not for the sentimental reasons as shared
> by those who think like you,if you go through that phase at all.But Sory
> for the fact that in absence of the best, he is the worst that
> emerged.Sory for the fact that the world will expect a lot from him,
> when he even does not have a clue.Sory for the fact that after he has
> presided over this country's heritage, wealth,potential, et cetera,
> people will not care that apartheid even existed. He will be the worst
> thing that has happened to this land, figuratively and literaly.The DA
> might be a white supremacist organisation, as you rightly claim, but
> whether you are PAC or PAM, you share with them the identity as being a
> typical post-94 political party, and cease to be a liberation movement
> you so artificially claim to be.
> As if the formation of PAM was not enough, but Plaatie's latest
> utterances, which you are so proud that it sparked debate, has opened an
> alley for him to the dolldrums and the dustbin of South African
> politics, and permanenlty this time.
>>>> <[email protected]> 02/19/09 10:05 AM >>>
>
> It is Not only you who is disappointed with the PAM President's
> pronouncement Son of the Soil, the DA (white sepremacist organisation)
> was
> equally disappointed. Those who think that we fought for the creation of
> the Scorpions Not total liberation are equally disappointed.
>
> But those who know that the 500 000 Zuma allegendly received is not a
> threat to economic and political stability were not disappointed. Why on
> earth would you spend millions of tax payers moneys chasing a mere 500
> 000. It makes no political /economic / business sense whatsoever.
>
> Go ahead and try and manipulate the electorate using Zuma's mistakes. As
> you point to Zuma, you must also know that the rest of you own fingers
> are
> pointing at you.
>
> The statement by President Plaatjie of the Pan Africanist Movement of
> Azania has to be applauded. It has generated much debate, and he must be
> as contreversial as possible if need be. There are no saints and angels
> in
> this revolution.
>
> Manelisi Luxande
>
>
>
>
>
>
>> Izwe Lethu
>>
>> I could not help but left wondering if not utterly dissapointed at
> PAM's
>> pronouncement through its leader,kaPlaatjie, on the Jacob Zuma - Arms
>> Deal Sagga. At its announcement about its victory and registration
> with
>> the IEC for the upcoming elections, PAM called for the cancellation of
>> Zuma's prosecution. Joining the chorus of those who make unfounded
>> statements and misguiding utterances,ka Plaatjie also spoke of a
>> political mendling and a whichhunt against Zuma,something we have
> heard
>> enough from the Blades,Vavis and the likes. You might be wondering
>> comrades as to why I'm bringing this issue on this forum, but these
> are
>> the very same people,in fact comrades, who swear on the names of
>> Sobukwe,Nkrumah,Motopeng and others, and whom we are all Pan
> Africanists
>> with, faction or not. Now for them to make such statements,mimicing
> the
>> aforementioned noncompoops of South African politics, is distgusting
> to
>> say the least.How does Plaatjie lament at Mbeki's dismissal last
>> September, but with the very same token, makes the very statemtments
>> that sealed Mbeki's fate, that of politlical conspiracy and the
> related
>> gabbage that's used to excuse Zuma from facing the music? If Mr.
>> Plaatjie, and anyone who thinks alike on this issue, could answer
> these
>> simple but semi-legal questions maybe I might be convinced; who did
>> Shabir Shaik corrupt when he was convicted for corruption; who did he
>> bribe and found guilty for, et cetera et cetera.And tell me if there
> was
>> political inteference when Zuma was financially dependent on Shaik for
>> over ten years. Can't help but imagine how many people were disturbed
> by
>> that pronouncement. While other opposition parties in their campaigns
>> are using Zuma's corruption sagga to boost their chances,Mr'
> Plaatjie's
>> PAM decide to do the opposite, amidst zero chances to be recognised in
>> these elections. Wonder what is in for him or his party..For it was
>> clearly political chicanery,opportunism and expediency at its worst
>> form.
>>
>> Umhlaba
>>
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