Greatings Noble Sons and Daughters of the Soil It's really myopic to think and belive that an individual can bring Unity in the party.
We are all aware that after having realize the pathetic state of our party Africanists came with an idea of a convention. This Convention served as a platform to cleanse the PAC of self inflicted wounds, and those wounds are well known by everyone withing the ranks of the PAC. It also served as a platform to devise new strategies and tactics to revitalize the PAC and to ensure that PAC finds relevance in the current political dispensation. The Convention was open to all Pan Africanists and Africanists in Azania who wanted to make a contribution in rebuilding and reshaping the future of the PAC.The revival of the PAC requires complete unity of purpose not of convinience and a determination to confront our demons and resolve them in an exhaustive manner.Hence the National Task Team was formed, its roles being to bring back the party into normality/costitutionality, unite all structures of the party. The Convention and the TASK TEAM identified that policies, common ideology and a clear and attainable POA can unite the party, hence as PAYCO we came with IOTA. The National Task Team is engaged in programs of mass mobilization, revitalizing the parties administrative machinery to mention but a few. We should have unity which must be based on common ideological, policies and a POA to take the PAC forward not individuals. People want to be seen as if they are doing something because others are doing something (reactionary), whereas they decided to maintain a deafening silence when the state of the party deteroriates every second. Let's guard against people who want to be Messiahs of the PAC, only a clear POA, policies and common Ideology can Unite the PAC not unity of convenience. Izwe Lethu!!! Lucky Khoza PAYCO National Secretary General 073 371 8233 [email protected] On 5/11/10, Hulisani Mmbara <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > Subject: RE: Did you hear about the pseudo PAC unity meeting? > Date: Tue, 11 May 2010 12:09:33 +0200 > From: [email protected] > To: [email protected] > CC: [email protected]; [email protected]; > [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; > [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; > [email protected] > > > > > > > > Hi Justice > > > I do not wish to correspond to a political cockroach that does not know the > PAC > and its history nor accept insults from a twerp who cannot think properly. > Whatever you say or think does not affect me nor the PAC. Mlambo is a spent > force period. To you who are the leaders since 1959 he is talking about? > Unity of leadership is not unity of membership. The past leadership > attempted > to meet Letlapa and he insulted them including him when Jaki arranged the > meeting. Letlapa wants to perpetuate himself through Mlambo and he sees > the writing is on the wall that his days are numbered and he is out of his > depth > to lead the PAC. > Mlambo must join efforts to kick Letlapa out period and to rebuild the PAC. > > Kind Regards > > Cunningham Ngcukana > > > > From: Justice [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: 11 May 2010 11:11 AM > To: Cunningham Ngcukana > Subject: RE: Did you hear about the pseudo PAC unity meeting? > > Cde Ngcukana > > I can see you still disrespectful as well but hey if the shoe fits on what i > said then wear it. Cde Mlambo is calling a reunion of all Pac leadership > from 1959 to date. Is the shoe fits > > > > From: Cunningham Ngcukana [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: 11 May 2010 10:52 AM > To: Justice > Cc: [email protected]; Lulamile Ntonzima; [email protected]; > Hulisani Mmbara; [email protected]; NDAMANE; Tulani Pike; > [email protected]; Jaki Seroke > Subject: RE: Did you hear about the pseudo PAC unity meeting? > > Hi Justice > > Frankly you are talking kak that does not warrant a response to a twerp > like you. I have never been opposed to unity of the PAC but I have always > said that it should be based on principle. We should have a basis for unity > which must be based on common ideological platform; policies and a programme > of action to take the PAC forward. Any other unity we be false unity. > Empty elements and political illiterates think unity is sentimental issue > and it > is nor. We have to deal with hard issues including the issue of what > constitutes > a leadership and the role of membership. Johnson Mlambo has no capacity > to unite the PAC and never has had. > > Kind Regards > > Cunningham Ngcukana > > > > From: Justice [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: 11 May 2010 10:41 AM > To: Cunningham Ngcukana > Subject: RE: Did you hear about the pseudo PAC unity meeting? > > Comrades > > Now it is clear that it is some comrades like you who claim to know the > Pac so much that will eventually destroy it. What happened to self criticism > and constructive criticism in the party. If Cde Mlambo has done a self > introspection and decided to rectify his shortfall why do you continue > killing him. You are afraid of the enemy and you take on soft targets who > happen to be your comrades. You have too much mistaken ideas. Some of you > messed up the party big time and still we working with them in the spirit > of comradeship and building the party. Cde Ncgcukana you should be guiding > us than being part of divisive thinking. We must respect our leaders and > elders in the party. Don’t be cowards go to Cde Mlambo and get facts. This > makes me wonder who some of are working for the party or something else. > START POINTING FINGERS TO YOURSELVES FIRST. > > Izwe lethu > Cde Justice Majazi Mvakali > > > > > > From: Cunningham Ngcukana [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: 11 May 2010 10:09 AM > To: Hulisani Mmbara; PAYCO GOOGLE GROUP PAYCO GOOGLE GROUP; Jaki Seroke; > Loyiso Mfuku; [email protected]; [email protected]; > [email protected]; [email protected] > Cc: JUSTICE CONCERNED CDE; NTONZIMA; NDAMANE > Subject: RE: Did you hear about the pseudo PAC unity meeting? > > Hi Hulisani > > I spoke to Thembeka yesterday who told me of the Mlambo initiative. > I was concerned as you are as Mlambo has failed to unite the PAC and > the fact that he is living at a PAC house at the courtesy of Letlapa > He in fact has been trying to get the house transferred to his name by > Seriti who hold the titles of the properties in Daveyton. > The basis of unity can only be common political understanding; policies > and programmes. That is what we must unite around not individuals. > > Kind Regards > > Cunningham Ngcukana > > > > From: Hulisani Mmbara [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: 10 May 2010 07:27 PM > To: PAYCO GOOGLE GROUP PAYCO GOOGLE GROUP > Cc: JUSTICE CONCERNED CDE; Cunningham Ngcukana; NTONZIMA; NDAMANE > Subject: Did you hear about the pseudo PAC unity meeting? > > A Discussion from the wall of PAYCO Facebook group page between April 15 and > April 20, 2010 > Justice Mvakali > Ø CDE J MLAMBO APLA CIC IS CALLING ALL PAC NEC FROM 1959 TO DATE, APLA HIGH > COMMAND, ALL FORMER AND CURRENT NEC OF PAYCO, PACYL, APLAMVA, PASMA, PAWO, > PACWL, PASO, PALF, TRADE UNIONS. Agenda PAC UNITY AND WAYFORWARD. APLA AND > MOST PAC MEMBERS SUPPORTS THIS MOVE. LET PAC RISE. > April 15 at 6:36pm > Hulisani Mmbara > Ø What is the basis and kind of unity that Mlambo is calling for? Letlapa > Mphahlele is a sell out and all his structures are carrying out a > counter-revolutionary programme to destroy the PAC. Does Mlambo want us to > unite with that programme? This call is in my view an infiltration by > counter revolutionary forces in the party to neutralize and ultimately > defeat the progressive agenda to rebuild and reposition the PAC. It is clear > that Letlapa and company are out of order. Did Mlambo ever call them to > order? > April 18 at 12:56pm > Hulisani Mmbara > Ø Why can't Mlambo focus on enjoying his pension and stop causing confusion > in the PAC? Since when is Mlambo a leader enough to broker unity in the > Party? He pretends to be for unity of the PAC but where was he all this > time? Letlapa has been wrecking havoc since 2007. Where was Mlambo and what > did he do? We will not allow people to use their seniority in the party to > infiltrate external programmes into the party under the pretext of 'unity'. > April 18 at 1:06pm > Hulisani Mmbara > Ø What we need is a return to constitutionality and legitimate leadership > not Mlambo's monkey business. > April 18 at 1:09pm > Hulisani Mmbara > Ø We must not allow anyone to deflect our focus from core issues and > challenges that confront us now. Unity will take care of itself through a > programme of action of the PAC. We can't have academic debates about unity. > Unity is always unity in action. Once there is order, leadership and a > programme of action. That’s when we will see unity. Unity must be seen > through collective action. We can't romanticize about unity. Unity must be > unity of the same minds and action. Unity is found in action, not cheap > sentiments! > April 18 at 1:21pm > Vuyo Mo Ludidi > Ø M'Afrika Mmbara you seem to be against the call by Cde Mlambo. Can you > substantiate your position as I’m convinced you are not against the idea of > unity but rather the initiative, I suspect. Izwe Lethu! > April 19 at 4:01pm > Justice Mvakali > Ø CDE MBARA, THE BEST WOULD BE FOR YOU TO GO TO CDE MLAMBO AND ASK THOSE > QUESTIONS. BUT YOU DONT JUST DISMISS ANYTHING WITHOUT GETTING FACTS ABOUT > IT. YOU SOUND ANGRY AND THAT DOES NOT HELP. WE NEED A UNITED PAC ON THE > BASIS OF PRINCIPLE. MOST OF THE PEOLPLE HAD THEIR OWN FLOPS IN THE PARTY BUT > WE ARE MATURED CADRES SO WE MUST FOCUS ON WHAT BUILDS THE PAC THAN WHAT > DESTOYS IT. WE CAN DEBATE THIS ISSUE BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY PAC WILL > REMAIN DEVIDED. ATLEAST MLAMBO IS TRYING TO GIVE US AN OPPORTUNITY TO TALK > ISSUES. FIRST OF ALL THE CONSTITUTIONALITY YOU REFER TO AND THE LEGITIMATE > LEARDERSHIP DEMANDS US TO FORM BRANCHES AND BUILD THE PARTY AS PER > RESOLUTION IN CAPE TOWN AND THE IS NO ADMIN SYSTEM IN PLACE TO MONITOR THAT > AND PPL ASKED FOR MEMBERSHIP FORMS AND CARDS HOW DO YOU ANSWER THAT? LET > MLAMBO TAKE THE INITIATIVE AND SEE. > April 19 at 5:34pm > Hulisani Mmbara > Ø Comrades I am not against unity in principle which means rallying around > implementation of a party programme. But I am against unity of convenience > between those who are committed to rebuilding the party and those who are > destroying it. What kind of unity is that? What Mlambo should be doing is to > call order on Letlapa, which he has never done. There was a convention in > Cape Town last November where all party members concerned about the state of > the party discussed comprehensive strategies. > April 19 at 6:21pm > Hulisani Mmbara > Ø Mlambo should have gone there instead of trying to create a little side > show. @Justice I have facts about this situation and my contradiction with > this reactionary initiative which you seem to be promoting is based on > assessment of internal dynamics over a long period of time. I will not waste > my time asking Mlambo the obvious. He was in the wilderness (and this you > know very well) all along and in my view he is neither an informed nor an > honest broker. > April 19 at 6:30pm > Justice Mvakali > Ø I disagree with you Mbara on your approach. One of the resolutions in > Cape was to try and bring those who were not active back to the PAC. And > that applies to Mlambo as well. As leaders we must be objective in dealing > with the issues in the party. If he did nothing in the past at least he is > trying to do something now. I can give you the list of comrades who are just > like Mlambo and we work with them in the working committee. Why can’t we > focus on the principles of party building, constructive criticism, and party > discipline and do away with mistaken ideas in the party > April 19 at 6:40pm > Hulisani Mmbara > Ø You refer to him as commander in chief (cic) of APLA. My questions were > directed to you to clarify your commander's command. There is a lot of work > that needs to be done to put PAC on the right track and I have little time > for counter-revolutionary programmes such as the one Mlambo is pursuing. It > is true that his vague call for unity may sound attractive while he is just > stalling and frustrating decisive resolution of the problems at hand. > April 19 at 6:50pm > Hulisani Mmbara > Ø This issue of Mlambo was also on the agenda of the PAC National Task Team > (which you and other members of the party nominated last year in Cape Town > at the convention) meeting held on Saturday for the whole day and as such > there is no question of me not having facts about this issue. > April 19 at 6:54pm > Justice Mvakali > Ø Ok let answer these question. FIRST OF ALL THE CONSTITUTIONALITY YOU > REFER TO AND THE LEGITIMATE LEARDERSHIP DEMANDS US TO FORM BRANCHES AND > BUILD THE PARTY AS PER RESOLUTION IN CAPE TOWN AND THE IS NO ADMIN SYSTEM IN > PLACE TO MONITOR THAT AND PPL ASKED FOR MEMBERSHIP FORMS AND CARDS HOW DO > YOU ANSWER THAT? > April 19 at 7:00pm > Justice Mvakali > Ø Let’s play the ball not Mlambo. There is no use to say all those things > about him when you did not go on fact finding. No investigation no right to > talk. Go and get his point of view, don’t stick to his past. > April 19 at 7:07pm > Hulisani Mmbara > Ø @Justice. I am never confused by calls for 'facts' and 'investigations'. > Soon we will be called to a prayer session and urged to put our faith in God > to bring sanity in the party. This thing of believing baseless and > purposeless unity will bring cohesion in the party is the height of > idealism. In a revolutionary party it matters what you have done in the > past. We must remain vigilant and guard against infiltration. It is nothing > personal. I have been consistently active in this party and I know what is > happening. In the process I have also learned effective ways to deal with > dubious characters like Mlambo and expose their tricks to broad day light. I > am personally disappointed with Mlambo. In December we attended the funeral > of the late Masemola, APLAMVA chairperson of Tshwane at the time, where > Mlambo was ashamed of being recognized as a PAC. He even grabbed some of us > not to come forward when PAC members were called to come forward and sing > revolutionary songs. Mind you Masemola served time on Robben Island together > with Mlambo and on the day of his send off his comrades like Mlambo hides > their heads in the sands because it is apparently embarrassing to identify > with PAC in public. All of a sudden Mlambo has found his mojo again and want > to unite PAC, the organization he, of late for reasons known to himself, is > ashamed of identifying with publicly. I will not entertain Mlambo. You know > that in the history of the PAC, despite his recent suspicious behavior, > Mlambo has been the weakest link. I also find it funny that no one in APLMVA > agreed to participate in the PAC national task team elected in Cape Town, > for reasons that are not known. I see you talk about the working committee. > Which working committee is this? Is the task of this working committee more > important than the task of the PAC national task team created to guide the > overall rebuilding and renewal of the party? > April 20 at 10:01am > Vuyo Mo Ludidi > Ø M'Afrika Mbara your are obviously a strong & firm comrade, I admire that > in you Son. What you need to guard against though Son is appearing emotional > in your articulation on positions. If you are dealing with a mass movement > like the PAC you will have to except that the majority of the membership > would be non active. Consequently they might not be clued up or up to date, > I which case you will be required to be persuasive in your arguments. > > You must not come out as being non-tolerant to the non active members as it > might be intimidating. Contrary, your arguments must be pregnant with > information & substance. I again suggest that we tone down on aggressive > language & practice extreme tolerance amongst each other. Forward to the > United States of Afrika....Izwe Lethu! > April 20 at 1:56pm > Justice Mvakali > Ø @ MBARA, you still have not answer the Question. FIRST OF ALL THE > CONSTITUTIONALITY YOU REFER TO AND THE LEGITIMATE LEARDERSHIP DEMANDS US TO > FORM BRANCHES AND BUILD THE PARTY AS PER RESOLUTION IN CAPE TOWN AND THE IS > NO ADMIN SYSTEM IN PLACE TO MONITOR THAT AND PPL ASKED FOR MEMBERSHIP FORMS > AND CARDS HOW DO YOU ANSWER THAT? > April 20 at 2:28pm > Hulisani Mmbara > Ø MAfrika Vuyo I agree with you 100% when it comes to the rank and file. > It’s just that forthrightness and firmness depending on circumstances may be > required when you deal with those who consider themselves cadres. There is > no anger at all involved. The truth has to be told even if it’s difficult to > swallow. One of the weaknesses of the PAC is that we like romanticizing > matters of life and death instead of dealing with them decisively. We like > papering the cracks but complain when the bricks of a defective house fall > on us. We don’t want to offend some members of the party even when they are > wrong and causing harm to the party. MAfrika Justice here is my answer: at > the last meeting of the PAC national task team on Saturday we resolved that > we will open an office and start creating a database of membership. The > office space with a landline and an administrator has been located and will > start operating soon. If APLAMVA was attending these meetings and > participating, it would have been aware of this development. Now can you > also answer my question: WHY IS APLAMVA KEEPING A DISTANCE FROM THE TASK > TEAM? WHY DID APLAMVA REFUSED TO BE INCLUDED IN THE TASK TEAM? IF APLMVA IS > REFUSING TO COME UNDER ONE UMBRELLA WITH THOSE WHO WERE MANDATED BY THE > CONVENTION, HOW DOES IT WANT TO SHAPE AND INFLUENCE PARTY BUILDING PROCESS? > Please comrade, I want to know if you recognize (I know you attended) the > PAC convention held in Cape Town last year, its purpose and its outcomes. If > not, why and what is then your alternative? > April 20 at 4:56pm > Justice Mvakali > Ø @MBARA. I WILL INBOX YOU ON THIS ONE DUE TO THE COURT CASE THAT IS > PENDING I CAN NOT COMPROMISE THE CASE BY RESPONDING TO FACE BOOK CAUSE I > DONT KNOW WHO IS WAITING FOR THE OPPORTUNITY. HOPE THAT WOULD BE FAIR > April 20 at 5:24pm > ……..the end > > > > > > Hotmail: Trusted email with powerful SPAM protection. 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