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From: Mduduzi Sibeko <[email protected]> Subject: RE: [PAYCO] To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> Date: Thursday, May 19, 2011, 6:08 PM Cde Thabo: I hope you are alluding to Letlapa Mphahlele, and your query is whether he voted or not. To my understanding and perception, the PAC lost a media hype. The whereabouts of Mphahlele during elections can be a matter of speculation, unless someone knows where did he vote. I can certainly believe, he voted. A week ago, I met an old friend who was an africanist, greeting him, I expected a warm reception. He began his long moan about his personal problem, which he claimed to have been worsened by the PAC. He claimed that africanist burnt his house, and other allegation which I believed to be baseless. At the end, all what he told me, explained his resolve to join the ANC. I have met tens of Africanists that have capitulated, others have been not been timid to tell me that they wanted an organization that progresses. By this, they mean that they need some state accruals in a form of benefiting from state’s tenders. We are a neo-patrimonial state, by this we mean that allegiances to a particular ideology depends on clientelism. On other words, it matters not what are your personal values, money is all what matters. Unfortunately, africanist have fallen prey to this predator called clientelism. I wonder, how difficult was it for us to capitalize on the weakness of the ANC’s service delivery. Should the DA transcend our ability to influence on African people. What did prof mean when he said “ …the PAC will triumph, because we have African people on our side..” if we can make some imprints on the elections, how do we justify our relevance ? I suggest that we go back, think about using all recourses to attract attention to the PAC. Maybe lets go to the scattered ensemble of africanist groupings such as APC, Pan Africanist Movement And other unorganized formations. We need to work tirelessly. I believe three or four times ,Seroke has mentioned that the DP (now DA) was at doldrums in post 1994 era, clinching only 2 %, but look where it is today. There was a hype and anxiety about its inroads in the previously disadvantaged African communities. Lets us invite friends to our meetings, let us expand this circulation. I see, we have less than 500 people that are on PAYCO group. If we can have a goal of extending the list to 1000 before the end of the year. I hope we would have done well. I tell you, I got someone who joined the PAC through this circulation. From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of thabo mathiba Sent: Thursday, May 19, 2011 7:50 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [PAYCO] ezwelethu ma-afrika is it true our president didnt vote yersterday if yes indeed its true why didnt he vote On Thu, May 19, 2011 at 6:55 AM, Mduduzi Sibeko <[email protected]> wrote: Cde Seroke: http://www.sowetanlive.co.za/goodlife/2011/05/17/quality-reading#leaf Attached is an article about Muendane. Some years ago, I attempted to establish some personal contacts with him as a stalwart of the PAC. Again, his involvement in the central role of the PAC around 1979-1980’s after the deposition of Leballo ,meant that I could learn a lot from him. However, when I spoke to him, he snapped at me, insisting that I should speak to his secretary. Disappointed, I enquired about his personal outlook from those that worked with him, and I was told that he had an abrasive disposition. Among other things, he seems to be an passionate writer. His work about Vusimuzi Make, did not seem to have enjoyed a wide circulation among the PAC people. I have established that, in the criticism of his work about Make, that Muendane seemed to have over venerated Make. While I was extolling him on writing about Make, one PAC (who remains nameless) retorted and said “ we were there, and the things that Muendane say are exaggerations”. Has Muendane fall into oblivion within the file and ranks of the PAC. Please relate to me about his literary contribution within the organization and his role in the Make’s leadership. I got a glimpse from Kondlo’s work about Muendane. KInd regards Mduduzi Sibeko Admin/finance T +27-11-724-9281 C +27-71-101-2595 F +27-11-900-1929 F 086-754-2176 Email: [email protected] URL :www.randwater.co.za This email and any accompanying attachments may contain confidential and proprietary information. 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