Thabo you couldn't have said it better ndlalifa yeAfrika. Letlapa has proven himself that he is uncapable of leading a movement of the calibre of PAC maybe he would have been a good COPE,ANC,NFP leader. I also find it hard to believe why PAC is not strong outside of higher learning institutions and you have just answered me. A movement that overlooks its future is a movement that will decay as time goes on. Failure to address this will result into PAC losing it's credibility amongst the young lions and that's the end of it.
On Fri, May 20, 2011 at 12:11 PM, thabo mathiba <[email protected]> wrote: > ezwelethu > > 2009 i Was Pasma provincial organiser limpopo all i say is that our youth > loves pasma,the see it as a movement they can associate with but am sad and > afraid to say pac doesnt support pasma and other pac youth structure to lure > support abd obviously gunner new voters infact they concentrate much on > veterans,io mean we will strike or just march against anything anti-students > at our university get arrested but pac will distance itsself you wont get > any intervation from mother body whatsoever.i think moving forward we must > just merge with all africanist parties,azapo,pam etc etc after all where not > in disagreement with them on anything except that their land policy isnt > clear,but i think our president is not fit for that office,continuing with > him is killing pac > > On Fri, May 20, 2011 at 6:19 AM, Elijah Skhosana > <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> Now we know what happens when we slumber and become casual about the >> liberation of our people- the Madame(Zille) and the Baas boy(Zuma) woes them >> with the promises of a better life for all. >> >> >> >> “If you do not involve yourself in politics you will be ruled by fools” >> Socrates >> >> >> >> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of >> Mduduzi Sibeko >> Sent: 19 May 2011 05:09 PM >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: RE: [PAYCO] >> >> >> >> Cde Thabo: >> >> >> >> I hope you are alluding to Letlapa Mphahlele, and your query is whether he >> voted or not. To my understanding and perception, the PAC lost a media >> hype. The whereabouts of Mphahlele during elections can be a matter of >> speculation, unless someone knows where did he vote. I can certainly >> believe, he voted. >> >> >> >> A week ago, I met an old friend who was an africanist, greeting him, I >> expected a warm reception. He began his long moan about his personal >> problem, which he claimed to have been worsened by the PAC. He claimed that >> africanist burnt his house, and other allegation which I believed to be >> baseless. At the end, all what he told me, explained his resolve to join the >> ANC. I have met tens of Africanists that have capitulated, others have been >> not been timid to tell me that they wanted an organization that progresses. >> By this, they mean that they need some state accruals in a form of >> benefiting from state’s tenders. We are a neo-patrimonial state, by this we >> mean that allegiances to a particular ideology depends on clientelism. On >> other words, it matters not what are your personal values, money is all what >> matters. Unfortunately, africanist have fallen prey to this predator called >> clientelism. I wonder, how difficult was it for us to capitalize on the >> weakness of the ANC’s service delivery. Should the DA transcend our ability >> to influence on African people. What did prof mean when he said “ …the PAC >> will triumph, because we have African people on our side..” if we can make >> some imprints on the elections, how do we justify our relevance ? I suggest >> that we go back, think about using all recourses to attract attention to the >> PAC. Maybe lets go to the scattered ensemble of africanist groupings such as >> APC, Pan Africanist Movement And other unorganized formations. We need to >> work tirelessly. I believe three or four times ,Seroke has mentioned that >> the DP (now DA) was at doldrums in post 1994 era, clinching only 2 %, but >> look where it is today. There was a hype and anxiety about its inroads in >> the previously disadvantaged African communities. Lets us invite friends to >> our meetings, let us expand this circulation. I see, we have less than 500 >> people that are on PAYCO group. If we can have a goal of extending the list >> to 1000 before the end of the year. I hope we would have done well. I tell >> you, I got someone who joined the PAC through this circulation. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of >> thabo mathiba >> Sent: Thursday, May 19, 2011 7:50 AM >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: Re: [PAYCO] >> >> >> >> ezwelethu >> >> >> >> ma-afrika is it true our president didnt vote yersterday if yes indeed its >> true why didnt he vote >> >> On Thu, May 19, 2011 at 6:55 AM, Mduduzi Sibeko <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >> Cde Seroke: >> >> >> >> http://www.sowetanlive.co.za/goodlife/2011/05/17/quality-reading#leaf >> >> >> >> Attached is an article about Muendane. Some years ago, I attempted to >> establish some personal contacts with him as a stalwart of the PAC. Again, >> his involvement in the central role of the PAC around 1979-1980’s after the >> deposition of Leballo ,meant that I could learn a lot from him. However, >> when I spoke to him, he snapped at me, insisting that I should speak to his >> secretary. Disappointed, I enquired about his personal outlook from those >> that worked with him, and I was told that he had an abrasive disposition. >> Among other things, he seems to be an passionate writer. His work about >> Vusimuzi Make, did not seem to have enjoyed a wide circulation among the PAC >> people. I have established that, in the criticism of his work about Make, >> that Muendane seemed to have over venerated Make. While I was extolling him >> on writing about Make, one PAC (who remains nameless) retorted and said “ >> we were there, and the things that Muendane say are exaggerations”. Has >> Muendane fall into oblivion within the file and ranks of the PAC. Please >> relate to me about his literary contribution within the organization and his >> role in the Make’s leadership. 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