mAfrika Mduduzi,

Unity is determined by actions taken by an organisation.
I assume but not sure that problems started in the PAC when PAC went to
parliament.
That was a victory for the ANC and NP.

On Wed, Jun 15, 2011 at 1:37 PM, Mduduzi Sibeko <[email protected]>wrote:

> Perhaps, we should regret our mistake of not clearing up the matter of
> unconditional release of combatants before the 1994 elections. In a matter
> of arrangements, be it accords or any negotiated settlements, where there
> has been bloodshed or armed conflict, parties normally incorporate into the
> agreement the unconditional release of belligerents. admittedly, in 1994
> everything was hastened. The sabotage that has taken place is unfortunate.
> If there could be something to expedite the process, I would be very happy.
> Without APLA in the 90's, the PAC would not have been known. But again, the
> internal wrangles are stalling the whole thing. Who has the jurisdiction or
> a capacity to agitate for their plight ? the matter of a unified PAC can
> never be ignored. We like it or not. The PAC must be a united force.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of
> Jaki Seroke
> Sent: Wednesday, June 15, 2011 12:29 PM
> To: Mzu Cabanga ; [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [PAYCO]
>
> Cde Mzu Cabanga
>
> I would caution against a knee jerk response to the circumstances of
> imprisoned APLA comrades without a full appreciation of the PAC's efforts to
> correct and amend their incarceration, and have all of them released. You
> are also very shrill and abrasive in attacking, I assume, Africanists who
> work for the ANC administration.
>
> Firstly, Motsoko Pheko is on record for having led a campaign to release
> APLA cadres from prison after being convicted for fighting for freedom. This
> has been his swan song for 17 years now. At the point when a special
> parliamentary committee was formed to address a constitutional pardon to
> effect their release, including those from the other parties, Letlapa
> Mphahlele wrote a letter to Mbeki that Pheko should not belong to that
> committee and that Mudini Maivha replace him. Maivha was not a member of
> parliament and could only bark without biting, and the chair of this
> committee went to a former NP leader who has stalled the process ever since.
> Talk about cutting your nose to spite your face. Yebo, we must sustain the
> programme to release all our comrades. The saboteurs must stay out. Full
> stop.
>
> Secondly, we are in an environment of constitutional democracy designed to
> protect settler interests with western backing. The struggle is not over
> yet. This phase requires strategic positioning and sustained coordination of
> our activities. PAC cadres have been sent to provide service in the state
> machinery since 1994. Efforts to resuscitate the PAC are deliberately
> sabotaged, and the decline of the Party has reached rock bottom. We must
> appreciate all factors and analyse the objective conditions, for us to make
> a serious awakening and to form a lasting alliance with the struggles of the
> Azanian masses. We must vanquish our opponents with facts, so says the
> evergreen PAC Basic Documents.
>
> There are those who fall prey to ANC tactics and unwittingly get used as
> idiots. They get to tasting the nector of neo-colonialism and cannot release
> their hands from the cookie jar. Structurally, observe the conduct of APC in
> the SCOPA programmes and make political reviews.
>
> My Afrika greetings.
>
> Jaki
> Sent via my BlackBerry from Vodacom - let your email find you!
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Mzu Cabanga <[email protected]>
> Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2011 08:16:24
> To: <[email protected]>; <[email protected]>; <[email protected]
> >
> Subject: Re: [PAYCO]
>
> Greetings noble sons and daughters of the soil!
>
> It is of utmost dissappointment to find out there are APLA members who are
> still in jail for political reasons whilst we are succesful businessmen and
> employees of the same whites who were the enemies of the Afrikans.
>
> It is a very painful feeling to be held captive in your own land by people
> who do not even belong here.
>
> I think more than everything that is on the table i.e. conferences,
> commemorations e.t.c. we owe it to the Afrikans in prison to do something
> urgently about that.
>
> Even Sobukwe would cry tears of blood if he were around and see that we are
> saying little if anything about the APLA members in jail.
>
> Ma-Afrika if we do not wake up now sooner or later it is going to be very
> difficult for the coming generation to distinguish us from the ANC and all
> this liberal organisations.
>
> We have Afrikans who go around embracing GEAR and becoming spokespeople of
> the ANC governments and later brand themselves as revolutionary Pan
> Afrikanists (Cunningham Ngcukana).
>
> This is a mockery to PAC of Azania and Pan Afrikanism at large.
>
> I mean what happened to the PAC that was active and less vocal? What
> happened to the PAC that led the march in 1960 where black people were
> massacred by the white police.
>
> If we waste too much energy on claiming those struggles without any recent
> evidence that we are capable of that then we are hearding for a doom and
> that is what the whites are craving like a juicy Mcdonalds burger passing
> them.
>
> iAfrika lilizwe lethu and this madness that we achieved is far from what
> Afrikans deserve, if we fail to reclaim it back then no one else will.
>
> Let us wake up for this is the last generation and after this there will no
> longer be a Pan Afrikanist movement in South Afrika and most probably in
> Afrika.
>
> One thing that is slowly but surely becoming evident is that we cannot
> defeat this system by its own design (Parliament) and so it is up to us to
> take a deciscion to continue wasting our time and humiliating ourselves in
> the media or find an alternative, the alternative we all know I'm sure and
> that is fighting the system the way it really works and not the lotto they
> have created knowing that you will never guess the six numbers right (VOTES)
>
> I trust that these foolish words will not fall into deaf ears.
>
> IZWELETHU ZINDLALIFA ZASE AFRIKA!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>
>
> On Wed, Jun 15, 2011 at 9:51 AM, Serame Mokgakala <
> [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > wrote:
>  Yes Comrade! our voice has always been feared. Please read
>  WhatsouthAfricaneed.docx and send me your opinion.
>
>
>
>
>  On Tue, Jun 14, 2011 at 6:02 PM, Jaki Seroke <[email protected]<mailto:
> [email protected]> > wrote:
>  > Bafowethu
>  >
>  > We must begin to uphold the valiant deeds and bravery of our comrades in
> APLA, and openly record their creative fighting methods which stung the
> enemy effectively. I was scribe for PAC delegates in the '92 /93 talks with
> senior SAP officers, led by police minister Kriel, in which they admitted to
> the superior skills APLA guerrillas used in combat. Figures such as Ncapayi
> were mentioned, and must therefore not be forgotten.
>  >
>  > Tom Lodge admits to erroneous reviews of PAC inputs in his earlier
> research work, but does not cite examples. It is dishonest to make sweeping
> generalisations of past mistakes without specifics. This is just meant to
> gain confidence of readers. However, I'm impressed with his coverage of
> PAC's direct operations before Sharpeville imploded. Most of the uninformed
> talking heads on tv, pretending to be political analysts, will have an
> authoritative reference with this new title.
>  >
>  > We of the PAC are being deliberately sidelined in debates in the public
> media space. The ANC and their chosen propagandists makes the mass media to
> behave like Pravda, which lied every day until the Soviet empire crumbled. I
> know how bias and propaganda works: repeat negative publicity until it is
> believed to belong exclusively to the PAC, and shine the marbles of the
> worst among them so that those who are best are discouraged from open
> association with this revolutionary movement. This is Goebbel's methodology.
>  >
>  > Eg: A well researched book on the life of Thami Mnyele "Art +
> Revolution", an artist killed in Gaborone during the SADF raid in 1985,
> deliberately avoids detailing my personal influence in the dramatic change
> that led to Mnyele joining the revolution. They never talked to me (his
> bosom pal) during research even though his fleeing SA in 1978 was after
> confiding to me. You see, he joined the ANC and I was then known to be a PAC
> underground operative. We were very close friends and they'd rather not
> bring PAC influence on one of their own in a book that may be a prescribed
> textbook for Art History 101.
>  >
>  > Let's rather record the details of major feats conducted by our own
> comrades, and tell their stories honestly without mangamanga. Otherwise the
> coming generations will call us spineless cowards and shameless traitors.
>  >
>  > Open palm salute.
>  >
>  > Jaki
>  > Sent via my BlackBerry from Vodacom - let your email find you!
>  >
>  > -----Original Message-----
>  > From: Sebenzile Mlaza <[email protected] <mailto:
> [email protected]> >
>  > Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2011 14:56:45
>  > To: <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >; <
> [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >
>  > Subject: RE: [PAYCO]
>  >
>  > Revolutionary greetings to all,
>  >
>  > An email hereunder by Comrade Jaki Seroke reminds me of one documentary
> that was televised on the 19th January 2011 between 18H00 and 20H00 sharp on
> channel 111 on TopTV entitled "Amandla! The role of music in the struggle
> against apartheid." As it is to be expected producers were more keen than
> anything else in reinventing the wheel, it was Hugh Masekela this, Mandela
> that, Merriam Makeba this, Vusi Mahlasela this or that, MK this or that etc.
> No mention was ever made in the likes of Letta Mbuli, Tlokwe Sehuma and
> Medu, Carlos Djedje, Bayethe etc.
>  >
>  > It was further reported in the same documentary, I would say in an
> apparent glee and in a sense with a sado-masochistic triumph that at some
> stage in the 1960s people were instructed by Nelson Mandela and Walter
> Sisulu to burn their (dom)passes. No reference nor mention of the role
> played by Robert Mangaliso Sobukwe and the PAC in orchestrating the
> Sharpville uprising is made, except some kaleidoscopic pictures albeit in
> passing of a few bystanders with an open palm salute. However, same is not
> being accounted for by narrators in the programme. Viewers will have to be
> excused for believing that the PAC was nowhere to be seen in the 1960s, as
> in fact, there was no actual visuals of PAC activism in the year in question
> in the same documentary.
>  >
>  > It is becoming abundantly clear that the South African media and of
> course some nasty and racist academics in the likes of Tom Lodge and others
> are giving the PAC a raw deal for one reason or the other. Azania needs an
> impartial media, not a party political driven media and academia. In
> journo-political circles this is what is called journalistic gerrymandering,
> whether its first autocracy before democracy, that issue irrelevant in our
> case we simple deserve an impartial media, we surely are a mature democracy
> by now.
>  >
>  > ps: To Cde Jaki Seroke - keep up the good work and always keep putting
> party line across, you remind me of the late Themba Mpinzimpinzi Ncapayi who
> was ambushed by the racist settler forces in Durban, Natal in 1992.
>  >
>  > Izwe Lethu i-Afrika
>  > Sebenzile Mlaza
>  >
>  > -----Original Message-----
>  > From: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>  [mailto:
> [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> ] On Behalf Of Jaki
> Seroke
>  > Sent: 13 June 2011 10:42
>  > To: Mduduzi Sibeko ; [email protected] <mailto:
> [email protected]>
>  > Subject: Re: [PAYCO]
>  >
>  > Noble sons
>  >
>  > I'm obsessed with the interpretation of the PAC's historical role in the
> transformation and change programme for Azania. PAC's purpose is for me what
> matters most, and if we all do not find common ground in the long term
> vision and the immediate objectives of the Party, we'll continue to drift
> aimlessly. I agree with studies of other liberation struggles, including
> Palestine, south America and others. This will broaden our horizons.
>  >
>  > I bought Tom Lodge's "SHARPEVILLE - an apartheid massacre and its
> consequences" published by Oxford University Press in 2011. It's well
> written structurally and pins SA's change on the culmination of the 21 March
> 1960 events. But it does not portray the Positive Action Campaign the same
> as it would have been explained by Nyathi Pokela, or even the 1976 to 1994
> PAC resilience the way it really was. It irks me that Lodge, who interviewed
> APLA cadres (in detention in the eighties) and observed the swoop on Party
> structures countrywide on 25 May 1993 (ahead of the Transitional Executive
> Authority) and the subsequent decline as a result of enemy infiltration and
> sabotage, fails to put these significant acts into context. In fact he
> ignores them completely. I still question his academic objectivity.
>  >
>  > We should therefore write and discuss world events and phenomena, in the
> context of revolutionary Pan Africanism and its threats and challenges.
>  >
>  > Lefatshe la rona ke Africa
>  >
>  > Jaki
>  > Sent via my BlackBerry from Vodacom - let your email find you!
>  >
>  > -----Original Message-----
>  > From: Mduduzi Sibeko <[email protected] <mailto:
> [email protected]> >
>  > Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2011 07:45:39
>  > To: <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >
>  > Subject: [PAYCO]
>  >
>  > Cde  Seroke ,Hlongwane
>  >
>  > When I have time, I wish to write a narrative about how the State of
> Israel was established, also with the ensuring conflict with the Arabs
> States including liberation movements such as PLO  and others. remember, we
> have been in fraternal relationship with the PLO in the 80's and early 90's.
> the position of international law in recognizing Palestine as a sovereign
> state. May I appeal again within our entire comradeship to make use of books
> and read extensively.  Dr. Pheko, every time when I talk to him, as a person
> with a passion for African History, would ask me about African writers most
> of whom I have never heard about.
>  >
>  >
>  > kind regards
>  > Mduduzi Sibeko
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