But see, that's the point, I have written to Apple several times requesting that they atempt to make their Windows version of iTunes more friendly to screenreader users, and to date I haven't seen much action. So, I have gotten to them and requested that some work be done. True, most people won't, but I did, and all I got back was a big fat nothing in response.
At 10:31 AM 3/7/2007, you wrote: >I think that comment to be extremely unfair, Apple put out a Windows >version of Itunes for the simple reason that not everyone uses or >wants to use a Mac and people have the right to use or not to use >what they want and Apple like the rest of us recognises that 90% of >computer users out there use Windows so it makes good marketing sense >to have Itunes working on a Windows platform. >Now something I'm extremely curious about, why is it that people >using PC's and Windows like to spend there time whining whilst people >using Apple Macs seem to be concentrate on writing constructive >letters to people and trying to get accessability issues sorted out ><smile>. > >On 08/03/2007, at 2:55 AM, Chris Skarstad wrote: > >Here here Jeff, couldn't agree with you more man. I think Apple put >out their Windows version of iTunes mainly so that they could say >they have a Windows version out, and they could give a crap less >about accessibility. >Yell and scream about how great it is Mac users, you finally got what >you wanted. But I'm going to continue to hold Apple in contempt >until they produce a screenreader friendly version of iTunes. When I >say "screenreader friendly", I mean a version that does not require >the use of scripts or set files to work. Fat chance of that >happening...I'll believe it when it happens. > > > > > >At 09:24 AM 3/7/2007, you wrote: > > The proof is in the pudding. Apple still hasn't gotten Windows Vista > > support done let alone accessibility, so I am sure it is merely a > > priority > > for the Mac platform more then it is for the Windows platform. > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > audio.org] > > On Behalf Of Dane Trethowan > > Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2007 7:55 AM > > To: PC audio discussion list. > > Subject: Re: Hats Off to Apple > > > > Better accessability for Itunes is being worked on. I'm not making > > excuses > > for Apple but everything takes time and I'm sure that Windows users > > will end > > up with a totally accessible version of Itunes before too long, > > just be > > patient, can't say too much right now. > > Why do Apple users make a thing about how accessible Itunes is? > > Because quite simply its worth making a thing about, its taken a > > while but > > Itunes has turned overnight from something which wasn't all that > > accessible > > at all (more near to totally inaccessible) to something which is > > getting to > > the point of being near totally accessible so that in itself is > > worth making > > a thing about plus the fact that all the hard work and all the > > correspondence between Apple and Voiceover users finally paid off, > > we now > > have a commitment on behalf of Apple that further development will > > continue > > etc. > > > > On 08/03/2007, at 12:28 AM, Stephen Guerra wrote: > > > > It appears that those who are using Macs are giving praise to Apple > > where I > > as a Windows user still as most find that Itunes is still lacking. > > > > Seems like any hint of an Apple user makes them scream that the little > > tidbit that Apple does is golden, well, its not and they are not, > > (meaning > > Apple) are Golden Delicious. > > > > More like rotten Macintosh! > > > > > > > > Stephen A. Guerra > > Assistive Technology Specialist > > Independent Living Aids > > > > "Products for Your Active Independent Life!" > > > > 200 Robbins Lane > > Jericho, NY 11753 > > Phone: (516) 937-1848-x313 > > Fax: (516) 937-3906 > > > > E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Skype: ILASteve > > Web Site: > > http://www.independentliving.com > > http://www.soundbytes.com > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > audio.org] > > On Behalf Of David Tanner > > Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2007 1:15 AM > > To: PC audio discussion list. > > Subject: Re: Hats Off to Apple > > > > Why doesn't that surprise me??? > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Chris Skarstad" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: "PC audio discussion list. " <[email protected]> > > Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2007 2:14 PM > > Subject: RE: Hats Off to Apple > > > > > > : Yes, I have tried iTunes 7.1 under windows, I wanted to try to have > > : an open mind and try it, and guess what? It is still just as > > : inaccessible as it was previously. So apple is still the lose, at > > : least under the windows platform. > > : and because Apple has made *absolutely* no efforts whatsoever in > > : making the windows version of iTunes more accessible, I can't > > support > > them. > > : > > : > > : > > : > > : > > : > > : > > : > > : At 01:54 PM 3/6/2007, you wrote: > > : >Has anyone tried it with windows > > : > > > : > > > : > > > : >Stephen A. Guerra > > : >Assistive Technology Specialist > > : >Independent Living Aids > > : > > > : >"Products for Your Active Independent Life!" > > : > > > : >200 Robbins Lane > > : >Jericho, NY 11753 > > : >Phone: (516) 937-1848-x313 > > : > Fax: (516) 937-3906 > > : > > > : >E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > : >Skype: ILASteve > > : >Web Site: > > : >http://www.independentliving.com > > : >http://www.soundbytes.com > > : > > > : > > > : >-----Original Message----- > > : >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > : >On Behalf Of Dane Trethowan > > : >Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2007 2:38 PM > > : >To: PC audio discussion list. > > : >Subject: Fwd: Hats Off to Apple > > : > > > : >Ok, here's the announcement about the new version of Itunes for > > Mac. > > : > > > : > > > : >Begin forwarded message: > > : > > > : > > Apple has truly done what some might consider impossible; on > > March 5, > > : > > 2007, Apple unveiled a long-awaited update to iTunes with > > support for > > : > > accessible clients such as VoiceOver. > > : > > > > : > > This comes nearly 22 months after the release of Mac OS X > > 10.4 which > > : > > introduced the VoiceOver screen reader. Since VoiceOver's > > : > > introduction, the VO user community has been very vocal about > > the > > : > > desire for an accessible iTunes. Apple has listened and > > delivered ... > > : > > at long last! > > : > > > > : > > While iTunes' accessibility is a far cry from perfect, it does > > : > > represent a significant step forward from what was possible > > before. > > : > > Users can browse their iTunes library, search and preview > > songs from > > : > > the iTunes Music Store, adjust song ratings, and much, much > > more. If > > : > > iTunes 7.1 is any indication, then we can expect improvements to > > : > > iTunes accessibility in future releases of the product. > > : > > > > : > > Everyone who appreciates the work Apple has done to bring > > forth the > > : > > accessible version of iTunes should E-mail > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] and > > : > > thank them for their hard work. Many of us were quick to > > bash Apple > > : > > for not making iTunes 7 accessible. 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