I think the comparison of the J-tunes scripts and something like Norton Ghost or antivirus products is invalid. Consider the market for something like an antivirus program. It is definitely in the millions for the original product and the yearly subscriptions. I don't know anything about Brian's business but if he has sold more than a thousand or so copies of his scripts I would be surprised. Prices are determined by the work involved in producing a product but also the size of the market. I remember a conversation I had with Ted Hinter many years ago when Windows 3.1 came out. He was saying that for $79.00 which is what it cost then, you got a lot of software. This was when JAWS was $795.00. There have probably been maybe 250,000 copies of JAWS sold since the beginning and I remember when Windows 95 arrived I read an article that stated that Microsoft was shipping something like 38 million copies per week. That is the difference of scale between these markets.
The bottom line is that no one who feels Brian is charging too much will likely change their mind and that's surely their right. I do think it is somewhat presumptuous to assume that he is simply trying to rip off the blind or agencies serving the blind because you think the price is too high. All my dealings with him have been professional and helpful. He provided me with answers and information even before I ever spent any money. So I say as I did before. Try the scripts demo and see if you like them. If they give you a value you think is worth it then buy them. If not don't. Karl ____________________ Karl Smith Access Technology Specialist Axis 4304 South El Camino St. Taylorsville, Utah 84119 Phone: 866-824-7885 Fax: 866-824-7885 E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Life is one dumb thing after another....Love is two dumb things after each other. -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Paul Henrichsen Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2008 10:51 PM To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' Subject: RE: J-Tunes 4.0 is released! I am not a big jaws user, though I own version nine. But didn't Jim Snowbarger and others who write scripts use to charge somewhere around $25 or so for their scripts? I could see paying 25 or $30. That makes sense to me, but paying as much as I paid for Norton ghost 12, which is clearly a much more complex program just seems wrong to me. Still, if he can get $70 for his scripts, more power to him. I have always been impressed with the guy. I just wish he'd rethink his price structure. Regarding itunes being free, I suppose that one could assume that that was figured into the price of the Ipod, somehow, since you need itunes to even use the thing. But a 4gb ipod is only $100. That should make itunes pretty cheap if you figure it as part of the package. Still, it is a much more complicated program than is the JTunes script or the 40 dollar antivirus program I use. -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Steve Matzura Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2008 3:35 AM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: J-Tunes 4.0 is released! I have a fundamental problem with paying more for a script for a program than the program itself, and in this case, the program itself is free! I can understand, though, why the scripts are as pricy as they are. It's not just one single script with a handful of quick-and-dirty functions--not by a long shot--but paying more for the script than most low-end MP3 players, well, I'd have to think about that long and hard, and I hope T&T Consultancy might do the same. On Mon, 13 Oct 2008 20:10:51 -0700, you wrote: >Yes. 70 does seem a bit excessive. I could see 20 or maybe even 30, but in >my opinion, 30 is stretching it. >I haven't even paid $70 for a backup program like ghost or a virus program, >but 70 for a script seems high in my opinion. >For a full fledged program, perhaps, but not for a script. > > >-----Original Message----- >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >On Behalf Of constantine (on laptop) >Sent: Saturday, October 11, 2008 8:35 AM >To: PC Audio Discussion List >Subject: Re: J-Tunes 4.0 is released! > >Well, that's my point. Sure. Someones worked really hard to create this. But > >that's like saying hey there, man. Pay 70 dollars and I'll give you a >chocolate bar so I can eat- that is, in my view, too expensive when there is > >rockbox out there, more accessible itunes out there, etc. Then again that's >just me. I'd pay 20 dollars for them- but 70? No way. > > > >contact details: > >email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >and others >msn: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >skype: the_conman283 > >system details: >Hp pavillion dv5220CA notebook pc >AMD Turion(tm) 64 Mobile Technology ML-37 2.0 GHZ, 1024 mb DDR ram, Fujitsu >100 gb 4500 RPM Hard Drive, connecsant AC-link audio >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Anders Holmberg" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" <pc-audio@pc-audio.org> >Sent: Saturday, October 11, 2008 7:57 AM >Subject: SV: J-Tunes 4.0 is released! > > >Hello! >Well actually i agree with you. >Haven't tested itunes but as i understand iTunes is free. >Long live the freeware and open source. >/Anders. > >-----Ursprungligt meddelande----- >Från: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >För constantine (on laptop) >Skickat: den 7 oktober 2008 06:22 >Till: PC Audio Discussion List >Ämne: Re: J-Tunes 4.0 is released! > > >Ow, that price, inclduing the ipod, seriously turns me off. I don't think >I'll be buying this. I mean, what's the difference between j-tunes and I >Tunes? I thought I tunes by itself was accessible. > > > > >contact details: > >email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >and others >msn: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >skype: the_conman283 > >system details: >Hp pavillion dv5220CA notebook pc >AMD Turion(tm) 64 Mobile Technology ML-37 2.0 GHZ, 1024 mb DDR ram, Fujitsu >100 gb 4500 RPM Hard Drive, connecsant AC-link audio >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Steve Pattison" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: "Access-L" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "PC-Audio" <pc-audio@pc-audio.org> >Sent: Monday, October 06, 2008 8:11 PM >Subject: Fwd: J-Tunes 4.0 is released! > > >> From: Scott Erichsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> Hi all, >> >> Despite a bit of a roller-coaster ride at the last moment with the >> iTunes 8.01 update, J-Tunes version 4.0 is now available to download. >> Please read this message carefully as it contains important >> information prior to download. >> >> First, we must thank our beta testing team. If it was not for the >> dedication and support from our beta testers this product just >> wouldn't have happened. Considering iTunes 8 was released in >> mid-September, and here we are in mid-October with a completely >> rewritten and tested product is largely due to the hard work they have >> put in. >> >> Also thanks to the developer, Brian Hartgen who has worked day and >> sometimes night to get this product to the stage that it is now. He >> must be congratulated on a fantastic effort. >> >> The User Guide is available on the website and I would encourage you >> to read it as it is likely to answer all your questions. We have >> expanded it to include all the new features of J-Tunes and have >> included a whole new section on the use of the iPod Nano 4th >> generation which is the latest iPod with talking menus >> >> J-Tunes will function as a demo by default. However if you have >> purchased J-Tunes version 3, you can upgrade free of charge. Please >> read the section in the User Guide relating to how this is done. The >> price for a full copy of J-Tunes in Australia is $75.00. >> >> Literally as each day goes by, we learn more and more about iTunes. We >> are collectively using more and more functions of iTunes to learn how >> things work, and so there may be aspects of iTunes which are still >> inaccessible. If so, please let us know, but we hope J-Tunes 4.0 goes >> a long way to addressing them. >> >> Finally, as with all software, there may be problems with any software >> package combined with iTunes. However if a bug is conclusively found, >> the only way to get it addressed for sure is to send it to me at >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> I will then take responsibility for sending your report onto our beta >> testing team. we will try and rectify it in the next J-Tunes update. >> But we hope that you will enjoy the J-Tunes experience in using JAWS >> with iTunes as our many customers have done until this point. >> >> So for that all important link. It is >> >> http://www.tandt-consultancy.com/j-tunes.html >> >> Enjoy! >> >> Scott Erichsen >> Support and Training, Blindness Products >> >> T & T Consultancy Australia Pty LTD. >> >> 795 Pacific Highway, >> Gordon, >> NSW, 2072 >> >> Tel: +612 9499 5075 >> Fax: +612 9499 5073 >> Website: www.tandt-consultancy.com.au >> >> Regards Steve >> Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> Windows Live Messenger: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> Skype: steve1963 >> >> >> >> Jonathan Mosen List Founder >> Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... >> http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank >> email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > >--------------------------------------------------------------------------- - >---- > > > >No virus found in this incoming message. >Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com >Version: 8.0.173 / Virus Database: 270.7.6/1711 - Release Date: 10/6/2008 >5:37 PM > > > >Jonathan Mosen List Founder >Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To >unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: >[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > >Jonathan Mosen List Founder >Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... >http://www.pc-audio.org >To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: >[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > >--------------------------------------------------------------------------- - >---- > > > >No virus found in this incoming message. >Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com >Version: 8.0.173 / Virus Database: 270.8.0/1719 - Release Date: 10/10/2008 >4:08 PM > > > >Jonathan Mosen List Founder >Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... >http://www.pc-audio.org >To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: >[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > >__________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature >database 3515 (20081011) __________ > >The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. > >http://www.eset.com > > > > >Jonathan Mosen List Founder >Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... >http://www.pc-audio.org >To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: >[EMAIL PROTECTED] Jonathan Mosen List Founder Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jonathan Mosen List Founder Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jonathan Mosen List Founder Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
