OK--stupid question--what program can be loaded on an iOS device that will play these other formats and get me out of the iTunes world?
On Tue, 7 Oct 2014 13:28:49 +1100, you wrote: >You're making things terribly and unecssarely complex and complicated. > >Yes that's right, just replace Windows Media Player on your Windows Machine >with something that plays FLAC files and the same applies to your iPhone, Mac >etc. In the case of iPhone and Mac no one says you have to use iTunes at all! >I don't for playing audio files. > >If you do need to or want to use iTunes then no, you can't play FLAC files >with iTunes however you can play Lossless AAC Audio with iTunes thus you could >convert your FLAC collection, Monkeys Audio Collection or whatever, even rip >your CD'S to a Lossless format for playback. though that's a step that I don't >think most most will want to take, its just far easier getting a Third party >player and playing the FLAC or whatever the audio is on your iPhone and >enjoying. > >On 7 Oct 2014, at 1:21 pm, Kelly Pierce <kellyt...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Dane, >> >> The difference is the tight integration of the Apple ecosystem in the >> companys mobile platform. Windows is designed to be an agnostic >> multipurpose device. The included Windows Media Player can easily be >> substituted with another media player, like Winamp, that supports >> FLAC. By contrast, it is very difficult to load music files on the >> iPhone without using iTunes. Further, Apples headphones are >> integrated with the music app and the phone or tablet itself so audio >> input and output can be managed without touching the device. Third >> party apps have limited access to the controls on Apple headphones and >> cannot access the built-in equalizer in the music app. The equalizer >> on iOS allows iTunes Radio to sound so much better than Spotify, >> Pandora and the others, as they cannot access it. >> >> I fully support the notion that FLAC represents a significant >> improvement in sound quality and that increased memory and bandwidth >> diminish its limitations. Unfortunately, the time for universal >> adoption of FLAC is not now. Many have predicted for years the >> widespread adoption of mobile payments through sell phones using near >> Field Communications. The predictions never seem to materialize until >> now. With the iPhone 6 series, Apple finally added NFC and is rolling >> out a payment system. We will soon see if this technology is embraced >> or ignored. >> >> The quality of audio streaming is getting better without a doubt. >> Streaming cannot fully replace music loaded onto a mobile device >> though for the reasons listed earlier. >> >> Kelly >> >> >> >> >> On 10/6/14, Dane Trethowan <grtd...@internode.on.net> wrote: >>> Okay I accept that without question but you forgot to mention that a Windows >>> nor a Mac computer can play FLAC files without third party software so >>> what's the difference? >>> >>> Third Party software or Apps are available for IOS etc that will allow the >>> playing of FLAC content as third party software is available for Windows and >>> Mac to allow the playing of FLAC content. >>> >>> The point you raised is taken and a fair point indeed! this all means that >>> MP3 and so on will be around for a great deal longer and I don't dispute >>> that at all because its the truth. >>> >>> All I say is that MP3 and alike formats have their quality limitations and >>> FLAC - along with other Lossless formats - is now a viable alternative given >>> that storage is cheaper,, portable and mobile devices are coming with larger >>> memory capacities and so on. >>> >>> Regarding streaming? Mp3 is being replaced by AAC and AAC+ which has a far >>> better compression ratio, I have actually seen some FLAC streams and test a >>> couple the BBC had experimented with quite some time ago, they worked well >>> though quite a bit of band width is required but I'm sure that will come in >>> time too just as the quality of streaming itself has improved out of sight >>> over the last 20 years or so. >>> Before I close, I did get one mobile device that could play FLAC right out >>> of the box apart from those I've already mentioned and that was my Samsung >>> Galaxy phone, the Playback of FLAC it seems is built-in to Android as it >>> should be. >>> >>> On 7 Oct 2014, at 11:48 am, Kelly Pierce <kellyt...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> Dane, >>>> >>>> Your analysis of the FLAC format omits the lack of support on Apple >>>> mobile devices. The iPhone and iPad and their iOS operating system >>>> stands as the most coveted and popular consumer technology in the >>>> world. Yet, FLAC files cannot be played on these devices or Apples >>>> media player, iTunes. With each passing year and no FLAC support, >>>> Apple incrementally loses its cool ratio. Some suggest streaming >>>> music, such as Pandora, TuneIn Radio, Slacker Radio, and iTunes Radio >>>> along with Apples Music Match, as alternatives to loading music files >>>> to the phone. Unfortunately, streaming music is not available on >>>> subways, planes and in big buildings as well in lightly populated >>>> areas with no cellular service. I want music on my device for the >>>> times when I want music, which includes the times with no data >>>> service. >>>> >>>> Currently, the MP3 format still represents the means to provide >>>> relatively high quality audio content for the widest range of devices, >>>> particularly mobile ones. I recently ripped all my CDs to 256k MP3 >>>> so they could play on my iPhone. I love FLAC files and have many jazz >>>> recordings carefully ripped to FLAC for listening on a high fidelity >>>> audio system at home. Most of my album listening is away from home >>>> though so MP3 is the format of choice until Apple supports FLAC. I >>>> fear this may be a long time, as only audiophiles seem to care about >>>> it. >>>> >>>> Kelly >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On 10/6/14, Dane Trethowan <grtd...@internode.on.net> wrote: >>>>> Speaking of MP3, I had great pleasure in deleting 80,000+ MP3 files from >>>>> my >>>>> network just now, as I have everything I owned in MP3 format in FLAC - >>>>> and >>>>> much more besides - there was very little point in keeping the >>>>> collection. >>>>> >>>>> My new Wireless Hard Drive hasn't arrived yet though it will be a truly >>>>> welcome addition to the network and storage. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On 7 Oct 2014, at 12:23 am, Anders Holmberg <and...@pipkrokodil.se> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Hi! >>>>>> I am happy with my mp3 sound. >>>>>> I can use the aac sound format to and for me thats great. >>>>>> /A >>>>> >>>>> ********** >>>>> >>>>> Dane Trethowan >>>>> grtd...@internode.on.net >>>>> Skype: grtdane12 >>>>> Phone US (213) 438-9741 >>>>> Phone U.K. 01245 79 0598 >>>>> Phone Australia (03) 9005 8589 >>>>> Mobile: +61400494862 >>>>> faceTime +61400494862 >>>>> Fax +61397437954 >>>>> Twitter: @grtdane >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>> >>> ********** >>> >>> Dane Trethowan >>> grtd...@internode.on.net >>> Skype: grtdane12 >>> Phone US (213) 438-9741 >>> Phone U.K. 01245 79 0598 >>> Phone Australia (03) 9005 8589 >>> Mobile: +61400494862 >>> faceTime +61400494862 >>> Fax +61397437954 >>> Twitter: @grtdane >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> > >********** > >Dane Trethowan >grtd...@internode.on.net >Skype: grtdane12 >Phone US (213) 438-9741 >Phone U.K. 01245 79 0598 >Phone Australia (03) 9005 8589 >Mobile: +61400494862 >faceTime +61400494862 >Fax +61397437954 >Twitter: @grtdane > > > > >
