HI Julien,

your correction is…correct 😊

You’re referring to the protocols running on the DCN, or more appropriately on 
the MCN, right? The IGP is usually non TE and just providing reachability 
info…but as PCEP can be modified for other purposes, they can be modified as 
well. On this I agree with you.

Cheers
Daniele

From: Julien Meuric [mailto:julien.meu...@orange.com]
Sent: martedì 25 luglio 2017 11:36
To: Daniele Ceccarelli <daniele.ceccare...@ericsson.com>; pce@ietf.org
Cc: Jonathan Hardwick <jonathan.hardw...@metaswitch.com>; pce-cha...@ietf.org
Subject: Re: PCEP as an SDN controller protocol?

Hi Daniele,

[Operator hat on.]

I agree on several things you wrote, starting from the answer to Jon's 
rhetorical question, which cares more about how much (at least I've never 
noticed my co-chair has a short memory).

Nevertheless the sentence below needs to be corrected, because it happens to be 
wrong: "optical networks with no control plane" is as inaccurate as "a fuel car 
with no battery".
Not relying on the high-end version of this mean to realize the core task of an 
equipment must not hide that most (even those Sonet/SDH ADMs) of the deployed 
optical devices do (mostly for management traffic, whose fate PCEP may 
share)...:
- perform IP forwarding,
- have a routing table,
- run an IGP to populate that routing table,
- run an IGP to advertise their attached addresses,
- support a large set of (IP-based) protocols for various purposes (e.g., ICMP, 
DHCP, SSH, SMTP), i.e. squeezing many roles within a single protocol is a 
non-goal.

A possible rephrasing could be "networks where the control plane is limited to 
background tasks", which reminds that operators deploy "fully packaged cars", 
not just "raw wheels with a motor" according to the misleading scope assumed in 
the current discussion.

Thanks,

Julien

Jul. 24, 2017 - 
daniele.ceccare...@ericsson.com<mailto:daniele.ceccare...@ericsson.com>:
·         It could be the SBI solution for those networks where there is no 
control plane (e.g. many NMS driven optical networks)

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