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>Date: Sat, 5 Oct 2002 19:34:20 EDT


>Therefore, one can power an early Mac PCI mobo (an 8500, e.g.) from an ATX
>power supply, in an 8600/9600 case, provided:
>
>1) an adapter plate is made for the ATX power supply,
>
>2) the 20-pin ATX power supply cable is ... somehow ... adapted to the 22-pin
>and 10-pin power supply cables required by the 8500/7500/7600/7200 mobo
>powering system.
>
>It's an interesting project, and not an impossible one, although I would
>classify it as being "very difficult".

Hmmm.   I may disagree with this assessment, but I guess it depends 
on who the audience is.   I think I could whip one of these up in 
about two hours with parts on hand.  Probably three hours total as 
I'd need 1/2 hour to make sure I have the pinout listings or get them 
from XLR8yourmac.com articles.  And the soldering pencils take about 
30 minutes to warm up satisfactorily.

The necessary parts are available from DigiKey.  The plastic housings 
are Molex Mini-Fit Jr. connectors.  The Receptacle Housing (which is 
the part that plugs into the motherboard) is WM3704-ND for the 10 
pin, WM3710-ND for the 22 pin and WM3711-ND for the 24 pin.  Costs 
are $.68, $1.87 and $1.24 respectively.

The 20 pin Plug Housing to which one connects the ATX supply is more 
difficult.  Digi-Key does not stock it in acceptably small quantities 
(minimum 100 or 1000 last time I checked.)    However, the Mini-Fit 
BMI mates with the Mini-Fit Jr. and the 20 pin BMI Plug Housing was 
available the last time I checked as part number WM3616-ND for $2.10. 
Another possibility is to get an ATX PS extender cable.  It will have 
the 20 pin plug housing at one end, with conveniently attached wires. 
Just clip off the wires at the motherboard end of the extender and 
much of the work of building the adapter is done.

The pins that go in the Receptacle housings are WM2501-ND and the 
pins for the Plug Housings are WM2500-ND.  There are ridiculously 
expensive crimping tools, but you can do it with a pliers.  That's 
why it takes a couple of hours.  Otherwise it would go much faster.

Anyway, the only other trick is that one must run the Power-On wire 
through an inverter (methods described in articles on XLR8yourmac.com 
about ATX to 8500 and 9600 PS conversions) so that the soft power on 
will work.

Don't worry about running one ground, 5V or 3.3V line from the ATX 
supply connector to two pins on the motherboard end, if you run short 
of the needed connections.   All the 5V connect to each other on the 
MB.  Similarly for GND and 3.3V.  Obviously, some connections must 
double up if you're going from 20 wires to 32 or 34 wires.

Here's an article on doing a similar conversion for the Umax 
S900/J700.  It's at http://www.io.com/~trag and then look for a file 
called something like Umax_ATX_PS.sea or some such.  Once you get it 
expanded it's SimpleText.

Jeff Walther


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