>Subject: Mac HellSent: 6/8/1920 9:23 PM
A few weeks ago I obtained an 8500 to replace my dead 7600 hybrid. The old drives were transferred to the 8500. At first this machine was prone to the same freezes and crashing that the other one suffered from. This led to a determined effort to sort it all out. S9ome may remember my postings last week dealing with extension sifting. and startup freezing. I followed all of the suggestions which came in to little or no avail.
Do you still have the drives that came with the 8500? I'd start by removing the drives that you just put in (from your 7600) and see if the system works then.
The 8500 came sans drives. The 4 Gig drive was never in the 7600 hybrid. It got a fresh clean install.
Needing this machine to work as soon as possible.( And I have a lot for it to do indeed) I got a 4 Gig drive from the swap list and formatted and installed Os 8.5 and when it seemed stable enough, although limited, I installed 8.6 . Because I need it for USB.
Am I understanding that OS 8.5 works fine, but not 8.6?
8.5 was also showed some instability. But minimal. However I need 8.6 for USB. Otherwise I'd go back to 8.1.
If so, I'd find another copy of 8.6 and try again.
I have 8.6 as a .sit file. It verifies correctly . to replace it I will have to get online. Eudora which I am using now works ok with an occaisional crash but Netscape dies when the startup screen loads. So getting another download would be hard right now
Or perhaps use another Apple ROMMed drive (I'm assuming the 4G isn't Apple) and installing your OS on that and use the 4G as a second drive to store your data on.
I have a second 4 Gig that is Apple ROMmed.But it needs an adapter. Netscape crashing has repeatedly blocked my ordering one online . I am way out in the noMacsland so I can't just go get one.
When booted the OS on this drive bagan showing the same problems. And when I reformmatted one of the other HDs and installed 8.5 and 8.6 update the machine still has these symptoms.
Isn't there a font issue with 8.6? And a patch that needs to be installed to fix it?
That, I am unaware of. I can see were font handling would be a factor in crashing or freezing. I'll check this out.
I seem to remember reading about that on this list in the past, but I've never used 8.5 or 8.6 (went from 8.1 to 9.0.4 to, etc)
I only have an unregistered shareware virus checker so do not consider it thorough of course.But all tests with it were to the negative.
I'd be surprized if a virus was the problem.
My thoughts are that my install disk and /or 8.6 update .sit file may be corrupt. Or one or more Memory SIMMs may be bad. This last even though Guru tests all as good.
Do you have an earlier OS to try out? I know you'd lose you USB, but at least you'd know if it is the OS, or the hardware, if you checked it with another OS. Is the OS you're installing a retail version or a machine specific version?
I have a retail OS 8.0 disk. I'll give it a try on one of the drives. Will OS 8 Have a problem with HFS plus formatting ?
Since the mobo is much harder to service and experiment with in this machine than was the old one I hate the thought of testing DIMMS but probably will.
Actually, when I read the subject "Mac Hell", I knew the number 8500 would be in this text :) I'm going to guess that if you start playing with the memory, you're going to have to put the memory test back on. I don't know that to be fact though.
Yeah . A week after I ordered this machine some 9600s came on the swap list. Timing is everything.
But overcoming adversity builds character. :-p
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