>Subject:     Mac Hell
>Sent:        6/8/1920 9:23 PM

>A few weeks ago I obtained an 8500 to replace my dead 7600 hybrid. 
>The old drives were transferred to the 8500.
>At first this machine was prone to the same freezes and crashing that 
>the other one suffered from. This led to a determined effort to sort 
>it all out. S9ome may remember my postings last week dealing with 
>extension sifting. and
>startup freezing. I followed all of the suggestions which came in to 
>little or no avail.

Do you still have the drives that came with the 8500? I'd start by 
removing the drives that you just put in (from your 7600) and see if the 
system works then.


>Needing this machine to work as soon as possible.( And I have a lot 
>for it to do indeed) I got a 4 Gig drive from the swap list and 
>formatted and installed  Os 8.5 and when it seemed stable enough, 
>although limited, I installed  8.6 . Because I need it for USB.

Am I understanding that OS 8.5 works fine, but not 8.6?  If so, I'd find 
another copy of 8.6 and try again. Or perhaps use another Apple ROMMed 
drive (I'm assuming the 4G isn't Apple) and installing your OS on that 
and use the 4G as a second drive to store your data on.

>When booted the OS on this drive bagan showing the same problems. And 
>when I reformmatted one of the other HDs and installed 8.5 and 8.6 
>update the machine still has these symptoms.

Isn't there a font issue with 8.6? And a patch that needs to be installed 
to fix it? I seem to remember reading about that on this list in the 
past, but I've never used 8.5 or 8.6 (went from 8.1 to 9.0.4 to, etc)

>I only have an unregistered shareware virus checker so do not 
>consider it thorough of course.But all tests with it were
>to the negative.

I'd be surprized if a virus was the problem.

>
>My thoughts are that my install disk and /or 8.6 update .sit file may 
>be corrupt. Or one or more Memory SIMMs may be bad. This last even 
>though Guru tests all as good.

Do you have an earlier OS to try out? I know you'd lose you USB, but at 
least you'd know if it is the OS, or the hardware, if you checked it with 
another OS. Is the OS you're installing a retail version or a machine 
specific version? 

>
>Since the mobo is much harder to service and experiment with in this 
>machine than was the old one I hate the thought of testing DIMMS but 
>probably will.

Actually, when I read the subject "Mac Hell", I knew the number 8500 
would be in this text :) I'm going to guess that if you start playing 
with the memory, you're going to have to put the memory test back on. I 
don't know that to be fact though.


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