Sorry. I sent a message that was meant to go off-list to the Mac Hell originator.
I forgot to reroute it & it fell by mistake into the pci-poermac address bin.


M. Hammad

On Sunday, June 8, 2003, at 08:32 AM, W. Adrian D'Alessio wrote:

>Subject: Mac Hell
Sent: 6/8/1920 9:23 PM

A few weeks ago I obtained an 8500 to replace my dead 7600 hybrid.
The old drives were transferred to the 8500.
At first this machine was prone to the same freezes and crashing that
the other one suffered from. This led to a determined effort to sort
it all out. S9ome may remember my postings last week dealing with
extension sifting. and
startup freezing. I followed all of the suggestions which came in to
little or no avail.

Do you still have the drives that came with the 8500? I'd start by
removing the drives that you just put in (from your 7600) and see if the
system works then.

The 8500 came sans drives. The 4 Gig drive was never in the 7600 hybrid. It got a fresh clean install.




Needing this machine to work as soon as possible.( And I have a lot
for it to do indeed) I got a 4 Gig drive from the swap list and
formatted and installed  Os 8.5 and when it seemed stable enough,
although limited, I installed  8.6 . Because I need it for USB.

Am I understanding that OS 8.5 works fine, but not 8.6?

8.5 was also showed some instability. But minimal. However I need 8.6 for USB. Otherwise I'd go back to 8.1.


If so, I'd find
another copy of 8.6 and try again.

I have 8.6 as a .sit file. It verifies correctly . to replace it I will have to get online. Eudora which I am using now works ok with an occaisional crash but Netscape dies when the startup screen loads. So getting another download would be hard right now


 Or perhaps use another Apple ROMMed
drive (I'm assuming the 4G isn't Apple) and installing your OS on that
and use the 4G as a second drive to store your data on.

I have a second 4 Gig that is Apple ROMmed.But it needs an adapter. Netscape crashing has repeatedly blocked my ordering one online . I am way out in the noMacsland so I can't just go get one.



When booted the OS on this drive bagan showing the same problems. And
when I reformmatted one of the other HDs and installed 8.5 and 8.6
update the machine still has these symptoms.

Isn't there a font issue with 8.6? And a patch that needs to be installed
to fix it?

That, I am unaware of. I can see were font handling would be a factor in crashing or freezing. I'll check this out.


 I seem to remember reading about that on this list in the
past, but I've never used 8.5 or 8.6 (went from 8.1 to 9.0.4 to, etc)

I only have an unregistered shareware virus checker so do not
consider it thorough of course.But all tests with it were
to the negative.

I'd be surprized if a virus was the problem.




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