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From: "David Elmo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "PCI PowerMacs" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2004 5:37 PM
Subject: [PCI] Re: OT: Is Panther Faster?


> Yes, it is an excellent question by Powermac. But, Mikie, of course you
> concur! You can play with X on a well suitable machine. The reason for
most
> legacy Mac users is probably to see what X is like, for a bit of a look, a
> taste, the satisfaction of actually getting it to run, sort of, and so on.
> Some folk claim they are stable and they can actually do work on this
> platform on older machines. OK. But for the rest, it's like running an old
> car and putting in a few mod cons ...
>
> I have resisted the temptation so far. When folk used to go to OS 7 on Mac
> SE30s I stuck to OS 6 because it ran quicker, no question. The majority of
> people do want more modern systems without real evidence (anecdotes are
not
> really sufficient). More a subject for social psychiatry  ...
>
>
> Wonder what X would be like on my 7600 (G4 360MHz, tons of everything
else)
> ...?  :)
>
> David Elmo
>

When OSX originally came out I tried a friends copy on my 8500 with
G3-400/448mb ram, USB card,  IDE card with 40gb HD and 48x cdrom. I found
the machine was slow. Considering it wasn't my primary machine and that I
liked using allot of vintage hardware in it at the time (Videovision
Telecast, floppy drives, SCSI cdr and scanner) I went back to OS 9.1 and
haven't looked back. I might be able to run the latest OSX versions of
applications but the ones that run on OS 9.1 are very snappy.

I see the same thing happening on the PC side where people with old Pentiums
and low memory want to run Windows XP on their old machines. Sure it will
install and run, but its painful to see in action. One the same machines
windows 95/98 or NT 4.0 would run very fast and still be usable. Even a
stripped down Windows 2000 would work ok, yet they want the latest and
greatest and still complain about driver problems, slowdowns, and getting
old games to run.

I was just curious why people go through the hassle. When I get a machine
running perfectly I tend not to mess with it until there is new hardware I
really want to use or new software that wont run under the old OS. Even then
I look into what's better using the older machine or just putting a new one
together. One of the things I liked about the 7500 (the machine I ended up
getting for a dedicated video capture machine) and old macs in general is
how easy I can switch boot disks and run OS 7.5.3 to capture video on the
ancient videovision hardware and then jump into OS 8.5 to work on it.
Photoshop 3,4,5 is very old compared to the latest version but people who
just dabble with Photoshop never really use the newest features so why do
they have to put up with the latest bloat?






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