At 10:18 AM -0400 04/20/2004, Fluxstringer wrote:
At 08:36 AM -0400 04/20/2004, Fluxstringer wrote:
It seems to me that the broader the appeal of a site the more it will lean toward IE compatibility. It would be interesting to know how pro web designers decide which compatibilitys to apply and to what degree to apply them. I expect that they rely on niche demographics appealing to their client's market.
[Dan wrote, but the attribution got lost?]
The problem is that many "pro web designers" *don't* decide at all. They just blindly use the tools that produce pages full of MS' proprietary enhancements and sloppy code. You can even tell they rarely test their pages using a slow connection or a slower computer -- if they did, the web would be far faster!

Then there are two ways to render every web page: The standards-based way, and the MS way. If you're a standards-based browser, and the page is full of sloppy code and/or proprietary MS "enhancements" - what do you do? You try to guess what MS wants, but you can't get too close lest you be sued...

I was referring to PRO designers. The ones who actually take orders from the corporate advertising departments of the national brands companies.

Yea, so was I. *smirk* :)


Advertising and sales departments always pay attention to demographics.

Oh please. That's why they run Buffy here in the morning - when noone is around except mom and pre-schoolers. And they buy ad time for adult products during cartoons... They're a clueless lot. Kindof like Compaq sending me catalogs every quarter...


Even the aged copy of Dreamweaver which I am starting to learn gives a CHOICE of which browser to build compatibility for.

You're expecting too much. Most of the web designer market is done by contract. They write to IE then let the customer pay them more to rework it for other platforms. SOP to bleed the customer.


And I am very sure there are accurate stats on the installed browser base

Nope. There's a catch-22 at work here. Because so many sites are designed to be Win/IE only, the alternative browsers include "features" that let them lie to the web server. So that alternative market just doesn't show up in the stats.


I saw this just recently in a friend's web stats. We know he has about 20% Mac users in his customer base because we surveyed them, as we sold the subscriptions. But his server stats show it as less than 2%. Only when you ignore the browser identifications and just go by our manual database off the userids do you see the real picture...

- Dan.

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