Thanks for the info Gerald.......but I still don't see if
you are saying this is good, or bad.
>>"So if you host a domain at Primemaster, then you would be
4th removed from a >>"prime mover".
Is this desirable, or not?
Thanks,
-Clint
http://orpheuscomputing.com
Clint Hamilton, Owner
Orpheus Audio/Video & Computing
----- Original Message -----
From: "Gerald E. Boyd" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
At 11:11 PM 4/7/01 -0500,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] -Clint Hamilton
wrote the following:
>So Gerald, are you saying this is good, or bad? I also see
>that several packets were lost (*) in this trace. They
>rated very high on a list of ping times, and were several
>times less expensive that the 5-6 before them (out of 50).
>At this link below, you can enter any URL and on the
results
>page compare
>the tested URL to some hosts' ping times.
>http://webservices.cnet.com/ping/default.asp
In general, the closer you are to a major service provider,
the better your
service. Traceroute and ping show travels times and routing
from point A to
point B. Let me provide some examples. I have Earthlink as
my ISP
(Pasadena, CA) and Superb.net (Vancouver, BC Canada) as my
hosting provider.
If I run tracert from Windows I travel from Pasadena, CA to
somewhere. If I
run traceroute (UNIX) from my domain I travel from Vancouver
to somewhere.
Tracert to this mailing list:
C:\WINDOWS> tracert imagicomm.com
Tracing route to imagicomm.com [128.121.220.147]
over a maximum of 30 hops:
1 36 ms 32 ms 28 ms
hsa001.pool012.at101.earthlink.net
[216.249.83.1]
2 16 ms 19 ms 16 ms 207.217.50.101
3 16 ms 16 ms 15 ms
f5-1-0-cr02-pas.neteng.itd.earthlink.net
[207.217.2.34]
4 19 ms 19 ms 19 ms
ge-1-0-0-br03-pas.neteng.itd.earthlink.net
[207.217.1.94]
5 19 ms 19 ms 19 ms
500.POS3-3.GW4.LAX4.ALTER.NET
[157.130.231.221]
6 20 ms 19 ms 17 ms
166.ATM3-0.XR1.LAX4.ALTER.NET [152.63.113.98]
7 23 ms 22 ms 24 ms
193.at-2-1-0.TR1.LAX9.ALTER.NET
[152.63.112.182]
8 32 ms 33 ms 38 ms
131.at-5-0-0.TR1.SAC1.ALTER.NET [152.63.5.102]
9 36 ms 39 ms 42 ms
0.so-7-0-0.XR1.SAC1.ALTER.NET
[146.188.144.145]
10 36 ms 33 ms 34 ms
185.ATM7-0.BR2.SAC1.ALTER.NET [152.63.52.81]
11 31 ms 32 ms 32 ms
a3-1-0-0c1.r00.scrmca01.us.bb.verio.net
[129.250.9.97]
12 39 ms 43 ms 41 ms
p4-1-1.r00.snjsca03.us.bb.verio.net
[129.250.3.3]
13 1090 ms 54 ms 47 ms
ge-1-1.r01.snjsca03.us.wh.verio.net
[129.250.28198]
14 35 ms 40 ms 45 ms
ge-1-1.r04.snjsca03.us.wh.verio.net
[129.250.28228]
15 36 ms 33 ms 34 ms 129.250.155.155
16 32 ms 33 ms 32 ms imagicomm.com
[128.121.220.147]
Trace complete.
So from Earthlink (Pasadena, CA) account I get to the
mailing list in 16
hops. Imagicomm.net is located 3 steps down from a major ISP
(Alter.Net) The
travel times show a nice speed except for a BIG delay at hop
13 (1090
milliseconds).
no2:/opt2/home3/expita>traceroute imagicomm.com
traceroute to imagicomm.com (128.121.220.147), 30 hops max,
40 byte packets
1 vlan20-gw.acc.dca1.hopone.net (207.228.228.1) 2 ms 1
ms 1 ms
2 ge1-0.core2.dca1.hopone.net (207.228.224.5) 0 ms 0 ms
0 ms
3 s10-1-0.ar1.WDC2.gblx.net (204.246.205.49) 94 ms 80
ms 2 ms
4 206.132.113.125 (206.132.113.125) 2 ms 2 ms 3 ms
5 so1-1-0-622M.br1.WDC2.gblx.net (208.178.174.54) 1 ms
1 ms 1 ms
6 s1-1-1.cr1.DCA.gblx.net (206.132.150.153) 2 ms 2 ms
2 ms
7 fe2-0-0-100M.br1.DCA.gblx.net (204.152.166.13) 2 ms 5
ms 5 ms
8 verio.s0-0-1.br1.DCA.gblx.net (206.165.113.146) 4 ms
3 ms 3 ms
9 p1-1-0-0.r03.mclnva01.us.bb.verio.net (129.250.2.182)
3 ms 3 ms 4 ms
10 p4-0-1.r00.mclnva02.us.bb.verio.net (129.250.2.62) 3 ms
3 ms 3 ms
11 p4-0-1.r05.plalca01.us.bb.verio.net (129.250.2.245) 78
ms 80 ms 78 ms
12 p4-1-2.r00.snjsca03.us.bb.verio.net (129.250.2.74) 78
ms 80 ms 78 ms
13 ge-1-1.r01.snjsca03.us.wh.verio.net (129.250.28.198) 79
ms 79 ms 78 ms
14 ge-1-1.r04.snjsca03.us.wh.verio.net (129.250.28.228) 80
ms 80 ms 79
ms I
15 129.250.155.155 (129.250.155.155) 80 ms 80 ms 78 ms
16 imagicomm.com (128.121.220.147) 78 ms 78 ms 79 ms
From my domain, expita.com (Vancouver, Canada) I also get
to the mailing
list in 16 hops. Notice that from hop 9 onward the path is
roughly the same.
No delay this time.
Notice also another item of interest. Earthlink takes until
hop 5 to get on
a major "highway" (Alter.Net) before beginning a
transcontinental run
whereas my domain (hosted at superb.net -- part of
hopone.net) jumps on a
trans-Canada run at hop 3 via Global Crossing (gblx.net).
>They are listed #1 here out of 21.
>http://webservices.cnet.com/html/aisles/Most_Popular_-_Host
i
>ng_Plans.asp
Hmm, I see that Superb.net is listed as 6th. I've had one
unforeseen outage
since I first hosted my site here -- drive failure on UNIX
Solaris (my
server) which was back in service (with backups) in 31
minutes.
>I haven't been satisfied with my current hosts
>(NoMonthyFees.com), so I'm looking to change.
Well, if you want UNIX with all the bells and whistles or
Windows NT then
you might want to look at Superb.Net for your needs. They
have plenty of
plans available. http://www.superb.net/
In case you are wondering how I have Earthlink in Pasadena,
CA and my domain
in Vancouver, Canada, the answer is telnet. I have DSL
service provided by
Earthlink, so everything I do locally from my PC originates
in Pasadena,
CA. However, I telnet to my domain (expita.com which is
located in
Vancouver, Canada) so everything I do there originates
locally from that
server. Hence, the different traces starting at Earthlink or
Hopone.
The other nice thing about DSL and this setup, is that I
have two (well 3
really) PCs hooked up all the time. I use both the Windows
and telnet PCs
simultaneously (my furniture is L-shaped so I have two PCs
at 90 degrees to
each other). No problem doing two things at once, only
problem is "cutting
and pasting" into one e-mail message (I transfer between PCs
via file sharing)
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