Harold I mentioned in one of my other posts on this that your MSCONFIG area looks fine, and that you need to figure out if BOTH entries for both AVG and ZA need to be checked and loaded. You'll have to uncheck one then test the program to see if it still works as it should.
Since you're running at least 10% too low at boot with nothing loaded, like I also said you need to check for leaks. 74% is fine......IF you have a lot of things loaded and running! The problem with a starting figure that low is you're not going to be able to open as many programs or do as many things since you're starting on the short side. The lower your resources go, the more unstable and slower your PC will get. Although 10% may be the "cut off point", problems can start occurring at 50-60% available. If Wally and you are speaking of the WINDOWS splash screen, all you need is TweakUI to disable that, but I don't see how that's going to help resources after the Desktop is loaded. If Ben is speaking of, or if he thought you were speaking of the "Resource Meter" in '98, it itself can consume resources but not that much (it tells you this when you start it). I have a customer's 98SE PC behind me and with the meter running on it at boot it's at 95%, 98% without it. You should check it and see what it says for the 3 resources area, and also start the "System monitor" I think it's called and see what it reads. It should be at about 4%-10% @idle right after boot. Both of these are under System Tools. Using the System monitor you can start logging events and also pin some things down by looking at the log. You can also add other items to the monitor graph from the toolbar. -Clint Merry Christmas to all & God Bless Clint Hamilton, Owner http://OrpheusComputing.com ) http://ComputersCustomBuilt.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Harold B." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> CLINT SAYS: We've been discussing getting the real video drivers for your "video card" and I can see from that info that it appears you don't have a card but have integrated video. This means you're going to have to get the video drivers from the PC manufacturer. Try searching that area you spoke of for "mhz" maybe it's listed like that. 74% is rather low with only ZA and AVG loading. There's a lot a programs you can download to track down or trace leaks, here are two --- http://www.automatedqa.com/products/aqtime/index.asp AND http://msdn.microsoft.com/msdnmag/issues/01/03/leaks/default.aspx - -- You can find many in a search. If you're happy with the way things are running, then that's good. But 74% @boot is just too low. Something's not right. You should have about 98% @boot on Win98 with nothing running and the video drivers installed. At least, every Win98 PC I built did. This is with CPU's about your speed up on up. Loading AV software and a firewall should not bring it below 85% at worse. RESPONSE: Again, this is what I have checked in Msconfig utility: 1. SystemTray (necessary) 2. LoadPowerProfile (listed twice; someone in the group said it is necessary) 3. Keyboard Manager (needed to enable those buttons on the keyboard to work. I don't bother with the internet buttons but I do use Standby, and two optional buttons that I have going to MSWord and to Notepad; very convenient to have) 4. AVG7_CC 5. Zone Labs Client (for ZoneAlarm) 6. AVG7_EMC 7. TrueVector (for ZoneAlarm) That makes a total of eight lines. If any of the above can be unchecked without compromising the system, I'd certainly do it. Let me know if I can. In my SystemTray (where the clock is), I have four items. The clock, the internet connection (two little computers connected), AVG Control Center (yellow, black, green, and red), and ZoneAlarm (yellow Z on maroon background and maroon A on yellow background). I'm spelling everything out to; like Nixon used to say, "make myself perfectly clear" (and then nobody knew what he was talking about). Without AVG and ZoneAlarm, bootup is with 85 % resources free. With them, it 's 74% and someone in the group said that 74% is no problem and he sometimes allowed the system to go down to 10% --- I've done that but it becomes tricky at that level and a computer freeze can easily take place; it certainly slows the computer down. I might reboot at 30%. Regarding getting the real video drivers for my "video card" --- considering what drivers I found, do I still need to upgrade something on this HP computer? If yes, what do I need and where do I go for it? Everything seems to be working. I don't mean to bother the group with this long thread, so you can answer me offline. WALLY SAYS: In win95 if you wanted to eliminate the splash screen you edited c:\msdos.sys by adding under [options] BootLogo=0 This does not work in win98. You can always tap Esc. to remove the splash screen when it shows up. The CPU speed should be printed below the bordered box to the left on the POST screen. You can hold the screen for extended viewing by hitting the Pause key. To continue with the boot just hit the space bar. If you want to boot to the dos prompt, edit msdos.sys by changing BootGUI=1 to BootGUI=0. You will need to remove the +R+S+H attributes from the msdos.sys file by using the attrib.exe file. You should be able to run it from Start\run use attrib.exe /? for help with how to run it. After you remove the attributes, from Start\run type edit c:\msdos.sys to edit the msdos.sys file. After the editing, the computer will boot to the dos prompt. >From the dos prompt you can run any executable file in the C:\windows\Command folder by just typing the name of the file and hitting enter. At any time, you can add any file to the command folder and it will also run under the windows Start\Run prompt. Make sure you have the edit file in the command folder so you can edit the msdos.sys file back to BootGUI=1. Or else make sure you have a boot startup disk that has an editing file. You could also run an editing file from a floppy disk while in the dos prompt mode. If you are doing some diagnostic work and want the computer to boot to the boot menu so you can select the boot method (Safe mode, etc.) just edit the msdos.sys file. At the bottom of all the x's add BootMenu=1. This should give you an afternoon of entertainment. Good luck, Wally RESPONSE: Let's hear it now, all together: YEAH, RIGHT !!! --- but for the fun of it, when the mood strikes, I'll give it a try. There'll always be something new to learn. BEN MOORE SAYS: Your CPU speed is under the processor section right at the beginning of the Balarc report. If I were you I would never start that resource monitor program again and remain completely satisfied and blissfully ignorant of the resource levels on your computer. ;-) For what you use the computer for it really doesn't matter until windows tells you that your resources are low or you computer slows down to the point where it's interfering with what you want to do. --- Ben Moore RESPONSE: I now have Belarc, Aida32, and Soft Sandra (pardon the expression). And you are correct; under the Processor section it says, 533 megahertz Intel Pentium III, 32 kilobyte primary memory cache, 256 kilobyte secondary memory cache. I didn't realize when first looking at the report what the 533 meant. What "resource monitor program" are you referring to? Do you mean I shouldn't bother with System Properties > Performance > System Resources? Anything you guys say I shouldn't start, I won't start. I can tell you now, I'm "completely satisfied with and blissfully ignorant of" more than just resource levels. --- Harold ============= PCWorks Mailing List ================= Don't see your post? Check our posting guidelines & make sure you've followed proper posting procedures, http://pcworkers.com/rules.htm Contact list owner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Unsubscribing and other changes: http://pcworkers.com =====================================================
