that's what i feared. :( sorry about this! - i assumed that my tests here were sufficient.
thanks for your tests, roman! i would hope that this different approach might fix it (so that the help menu works for pd window and patch window with the "Pd help" entry): https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data/compare/master...ben-wes:pure-data:fix/tcl8.6help that's not confirmed yet, though. cheers, ben On Wed, Aug 6, 2025 at 1:33 PM Roman Haefeli <reduz...@gmail.com> wrote: > > I checked the diff between test1 und test2 and found the only change in > the tcl files to be in pd_menus.tcl. > > > After commenting out the following lines (79-82): > > > # # create separate help menu for pdwindow on macOS (system integration) > # if {$::windowingsystem eq "aqua" && $::tcl_version >= 8.5} { > # build_help_menu [menu $::pdwindow_menubar.help] > # $::pdwindow_menubar entryconfigure "Help" -menu > $::pdwindow_menubar.help > # } > # > > I have a working Pd-0.56-0.app on macOS 15.5 > > (The change didn't seem to have an effect immediately. I had to restart > Pd.app a few times before I experienced a difference) > > > Roman > > > > On Tue, 2025-08-05 at 12:30 +0200, Benjamin Wesch wrote: > > yep. i prepared some builds from several commits between those - just > > don't have a machine to test right now. > > > > cheers, > > ben > > > > On Tue, Aug 5, 2025, 12:22 Miller Puckette via Pd-dev > > <pd-dev@lists.iem.at> wrote: > > > I can't seem to get hold of the CI "pipelines" right now (getting > > > an > > > error) but... would it > > > be possible to test some versions between test1 and test2 to narrow > > > things down? > > > > > > cheers > > > M > > > > > > > > > On 8/5/25 12:08 PM, Benjamin Wesch wrote: > > > > > I only hope that this has nothing to do with my rewrite of the > > > > > menus (having different menus for the PdWindow and > > > > > PatchWindows). > > > > since test1 already includes your changes (afaict) and works > > > > well, i > > > > guess they're fine. i'm currently more worried that my attempt of > > > > restoring the "Pd help" entry is causing the issue and somehow > > > > interferes with the initialization: > > > > https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data/commit/eaa3fb53d287d15a07325e5f33a16864b776b547__;!!Mih3wA!F_GMw3H6073_7Fp7FWvY_XV_I47dn7QR7t3zw2x9qXvaLwnRD1_dOHiT5DJgnmz7ruQbCOYH8v2fxxIwQcKh$ > > > > > > > > ... but same here: no idea why that's not an issue on my machine. > > > > > > > > cheers, > > > > ben > > > > > > > > --- > > > > pd-dev@lists.iem.at - the Pd developers' mailinglist > > > > https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://lists.iem.at/hyperkitty/list/pd-dev@lists.iem.at/message/VU5SIQ3Q7HB27AFHPGZ6QQZEX45HCYSM/__;!!Mih3wA!F_GMw3H6073_7Fp7FWvY_XV_I47dn7QR7t3zw2x9qXvaLwnRD1_dOHiT5DJgnmz7ruQbCOYH8v2fx_I5Fb-7$ > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- > > > pd-dev@lists.iem.at - the Pd developers' mailinglist > > > https://lists.iem.at/hyperkitty/list/pd-dev@lists.iem.at/message/SVNMIUOITKN3H3INJFN3YFBG6WHYMBSM/ > > > > > --- > > pd-dev@lists.iem.at - the Pd developers' mailinglist > > https://lists.iem.at/hyperkitty/list/pd-dev@lists.iem.at/message/FZBLCYIX7IWY6643ICJVAVDFP5SAP2IN/ > --- pd-dev@lists.iem.at - the Pd developers' mailinglist https://lists.iem.at/hyperkitty/list/pd-dev@lists.iem.at/message/TZX4UCIUVLC3O7MZLUYVIIDWJJHNJZ2I/