----- Original Message -----
> From: Mathieu Bouchard <[email protected]>
> To: András Murányi <[email protected]>
> Cc: pd-list <[email protected]>
> Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2011 3:18 PM
> Subject: Re: [PD] notes/questions from a beginner
> 
> On Thu, 25 Aug 2011, András Murányi wrote:
> 
>>  On Wed, Aug 24, 2011 at 23:10, Jonathan Wilkes <[email protected]> 
> wrote:
>>        [...]
>> 
>>  * has anyone used tkzinc?  On the one hand, all the new feature requests 
> I've seen for future versions of tk canvas have the caveat that they are 
> already implemented in
>>  tkzinc, (item grouping, transparency, full text rotation, etc.) but it 
> seems like an unmaintained library at this point.
>>   
>>  It does seem unmaintained but to what extent is it unfinished/buggy?
> 
> The biggest problem with TkZinc is not what looks like unfinished stuff or 
> bugs, 
> it's that although its API looks a lot like the TkCanvas that Pd uses, 
> it's not compatible enough.

I think I must have sent my last message only to András, but I looked around at 
the 
tkzinc demos and found at least one obvious bug in the latest version.  
Additionally there 
was documentation that said rotation would work without using opengl, but on 
two 
machine I experienced a crash with the corresponding demo if I compiled without 
enabling gl support.  (Worked fine with opengl enable, though.)

Additionally, one of the demos showing off graphics interaction and 
transparency was 
_extremely_ sluggish just moving a few rectangles around on the screen.  Add to 
that 
another of the demos showing an air traffic control interface where the 
interval between 
graphics updates was about 1sec, and I would say I don't think the tkzinc 
canvas 
was designed with efficiency in mind.

But the grouping stuff and sensitivity levels are very cool.  As is the svg 
tiger.

All I could think of is adding these gems to the "Put" menu array dialog:

Array Properties

Name:
array1

Size:
100

[*] Save contents

Draw as:
[] Points
[] Polygon
[] Bezier curve
[*] Svg tigers

Put array into:
[] New graph
[] Last graph
[*] Svg tiger


-Jonathan

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