You're right Jonathan, I completely agree. I really shouldn't post things until I've had breakfast. Or try to be light and ironic on topics that I believe strongly in, i.e. cynicism != useful in most situations.
On Wed, Jan 11, 2012 at 10:23 AM, Jonathan Wilkes <[email protected]>wrote: > No, there really are music students out there looking at what they need in > order to be successful, and > when most of the voices around them are aggressively (and often > ignorantly) suggesting only > proprietary tools that cost lots of money, these students save up their > meager resources in order to > buy them. I'm talking about students who are probably already in debt > from loans, and it's quite common > that they max out on their technology budget and as a consequence are > unable to attend a > festival. > > What's even worse is that these constrained options lead to a lot of those > students downloading > cracked copies of proprietary software (and the negative effects there > usually manifest themselves > more quickly and concretely). > > -Jonathan > > ------------------------------ > *From:* Richie Cyngler <[email protected]> > *To:* Jonathan Wilkes <[email protected]> > *Cc:* Ben Baker-Smith <[email protected]>; pd list <[email protected]> > *Sent:* Tuesday, January 10, 2012 5:53 PM > > *Subject:* Re: [PD] no pd?? WTF ???? > > Not a bad point... but, or more likely because they are supporting only > those artists able to afford such things as expensive software, travel and > food. > > On Wed, Jan 11, 2012 at 9:48 AM, Jonathan Wilkes <[email protected]>wrote: > > I can't think of a better example of the vicious cycle of software lock-in > than this. > They don't have money to offer financial support, so they have to rely on > the tools > that they know, which are proprietary and expensive, thus making it even > less likely > that a composer would be able to afford to travel to the concert (because > he/she > had to spend money on either Max/MSP or Kyma to composer the piece in the > first > place). > > > -Jonathan > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Ben Baker-Smith <[email protected]> > > To: pd list <[email protected]> > > Cc: > > Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2012 4:12 PM > > Subject: Re: [PD] no pd?? WTF ???? > > > > Hi list! > > > > I got a more clear response from the organizers on this issue than > > anything I've seen in this thread so far - here it is: > > > >> Hi Ben, > >> > >> thanks for your Interest in our Call. > >> > >> We accepts only patches made with Kyma or Max/MSP due the fact we are > not > > able to provide > >> financial support for the two selected composers. So it is possible > that > > they will not be able to be in Milan for the concert. > >> To avoid technical issues we choose the plattforms we already use in > our > > work or we are very familiar with. > >> This is the only reason. > >> If the selected composer can assure us to be available for the concert > the > > can be used any piece of software/hardware. > >> > >> I hope this helps. > >> > >> Many thanks > >> > >> > >> Federico Placidi > > > > _______________________________________________ > > [email protected] mailing list > > UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> > > http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list > > > > _______________________________________________ > [email protected] mailing list > UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> > http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list > > > > > -- > Richie > > > -- Richie
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