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Gads.

My test is accurate and contradicted Lynn's contention. Also see a later
response from Olaf Drummer, an expert with Callas Software, who also
verified that all bitmap images are treated equally when distilled from
PostScript.

The EPS image file contained in my test was compressed with JEPG
compression, as was the tiff. The only difference is that the file which I
PostScripted and Distilled was slightly smaller than the exported PDF (which
uses the Adobe PDF library).

This entire thread has nothing to do with vector graphics...the original
poster had bitmapped images (photos) saved in EPS format.

The question is why she has a 57 MB PDF file. The solution needs to start
with how the PDF is being made, and what components are going into the
original Quark file. To this point, we are lacking that information.

Rich  

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I am not knowledgeable enough to know if Lynn is correct about the image
compression but it seems to me that, if anything Rich Spragues test only
confirmed the accuracy of Lynn's theory.

Lynn said that raster images contained in an EPS file were not compressed.
Rich put a raster image in an EPS file and, voila, it was not compressed.

It seems to me that, to test the theory, you should take an EPS file
containing only vector graphics, PDF it and test it. Then take an EPS file
containing vector graphics and, as Lynn suggests, some raster information.
Or perhaps RIP the original EPS and then see if the compression percentage
is the same as the compression on the vector version.

Dan

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Are you sure? I don't think this is true.

To test this theory, I took a 3.5 x 4.62 color 300 dpi image and saved it
both as an EPS file and a TIFF file.

I imported each image into InDesign, one at a time. Then I exported PDF's
using the Press quality settings.

Both PDF files were 1.12 MB.

Just for kicks, I printed the EPS version to PostScript, then distilled
using Press settings. I was not surprised with the results. The Distilled
version was slightly smaller, 988KB. When I pre-flighted the PDF (Acro 6),
the image indicated JPG compression.

Rich

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It is possible to have EPS images that contain rasterized information too.
In these cases I believe that any distiller settings for downsampling and
compression are _NOT_ applied to the raster information inside the EPS.

Lynn


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