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Catherine,
I understand where you are coming from.
Not wanting to bash too many ears in this list - but you can get an Adobe specific white-paper on the PDF/X implementation in Acrobat 6 Professional from: http://www.adobe.com/products/acrobat/creativepro.html
[click on the 'PDF/X FAQ' for quite an interesting download]
You can implement PDF/X in Acrobat 5 now - but you must invest in Enfocus Pitstop Professional or similar plug-ins. This is a plug-in which works within both OS 9 and OS X versions of Acrobat 5.
It comes with pre-built PDF/X profiles - just click on the 'Report' icon and you're away. Albeit ... not as slick as actually dropping into Distiller 6 with the PDF/X-1a job option but still.
Also look at http://www.pdf-x.com (US based but very informative) and you might even look at my site http://www.certitec.com
Take a peek and tell us how you get on.
Cheers,
Jon
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On 6 Apr 2004, at 17:23, Catherine Osborn wrote:
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Hello all,
I'm afraid that, since I'm still using Acrobat 5 with Quark 4 or Quark Passport 5, this info may not yet be relevant to the way I work. I'm certainly planning to make the leap soon, but I'll need to get the dosh together for the entire Adobe publishing suite for Mac OS X or for a version of Quark 6, which so far has had unimpressive reviews next to In Design 2. Anyway, all of this means that I still work on the Mac OS 9 partition of my hard drive and am thus confined to Distiller 5. I have never actually made a PDF/X and don't know how it is substantially different from other PDFs. Can someone enlighten me?
However, I'm still finding the discussion interesting.
Hope you'll excuse me if I haven't been following this discussion as closely as it deserves, especially since people seem to be making comments that may be vital to my interests, but I seem to get 70 or so emails a day (all good stuff, no spam), all of which are screaming for a share of my less than impressive attention span. (I think I'm a case of pre-senile ADD.)
Catherine Osborn
On Monday, Apr 5, 2004, at 10:01 Europe/Dublin, Jon Bessant wrote:
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Peter,
I now see where we both disagree - it's the difference between running a standard 'preflight check' against a PDF/X profile and the 'PDF/X' and 'Save as PDF/X' selections.
But I do agree with you now - I think we were talking about slight differences in the implementation of Preflight in Acrobat 6 Professional.
Jon
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On 5 Apr 2004, at 09:18, Peter Kleinheider wrote:
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Hi Jon
You'd please better check on that
I know that Distiller is not removing OPI comments
But Preflight is removing OPI-comments when saving a PDF as PDF/X3!!!
Peter Kleinheider
On 05.04.2004, at 02:11, Jon Bessant wrote:
If you own Acrobat 6.0 professional and you create a PDF/X-3 or PDF/X-1a file using the build in preflight tool, then OPI-comments will also get removed since they are not permitted in those files.[DISTILLER] Not really - they are just not part of the PDF/X-1a parameters. They are not included in the base job options to begin with - though PDF/X-1a is an excellent job set. The PDF/x-1a settings do not REMOVE OPI - only error if they are present.
[ACROBAT] Performing/verifying a PDF as a PDF/X-1a will not automatically remove the OPI comments - only present the RED icon as a failure. The only way to ensure it passes it to either create your document to the correct Distiller settings to not include/preserve OPI or to use a tool (such as Pitstop) to remove.
I do however fully support the idea - as you know, the Ghent PDF Workflow also promote good PDF creation/verification standard.
Jon
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On 4 Apr 2004, at 22:10, Peter Kleinheider wrote:
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Hi Catherine
Have you heard form PDF/X-3 or PDF/X-1a?
If you own Acrobat 6.0 professional and you create a PDF/X-3 or PDF/X-1a file using the build in preflight tool, then OPI-comments will also get removed since they are not permitted in those files.
It would - on the other hand - anyway be a very good idea to convert your files to PDF/X.
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Hello Jon,
I'm pretty sure my PDFs used the default Press settings, which leave Preserve Halftone Screen deselected. But I will certainly check because there seem to be a lot of variables that can cause problems. Sounds as if I need my own copy of Pitstop Pro as well.
Thanks,
Catherine Osborn
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On 5 Apr 2004, at 09:18, Peter Kleinheider wrote:
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Hi Jon
You'd please better check on that
I know that Distiller is not removing OPI comments
But Preflight is removing OPI-comments when saving a PDF as PDF/X3!!!
Peter Kleinheider
On 05.04.2004, at 02:11, Jon Bessant wrote:
If you own Acrobat 6.0 professional and you create a PDF/X-3 or PDF/X-1a file using the build in preflight tool, then OPI-comments will also get removed since they are not permitted in those files.[DISTILLER] Not really - they are just not part of the PDF/X-1a parameters. They are not included in the base job options to begin with - though PDF/X-1a is an excellent job set. The PDF/x-1a settings do not REMOVE OPI - only error if they are present.
[ACROBAT] Performing/verifying a PDF as a PDF/X-1a will not automatically remove the OPI comments - only present the RED icon as a failure. The only way to ensure it passes it to either create your document to the correct Distiller settings to not include/preserve OPI or to use a tool (such as Pitstop) to remove.
I do however fully support the idea - as you know, the Ghent PDF Workflow also promote good PDF creation/verification standard.
Jon
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On 4 Apr 2004, at 22:10, Peter Kleinheider wrote:
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Hi Catherine
Have you heard form PDF/X-3 or PDF/X-1a?
If you own Acrobat 6.0 professional and you create a PDF/X-3 or PDF/X-1a file using the build in preflight tool, then OPI-comments will also get removed since they are not permitted in those files.
It would - on the other hand - anyway be a very good idea to convert your files to PDF/X.
On 04.04.2004, at 22:41, Catherine Osborn wrote:
Hello Jon,
I'm pretty sure my PDFs used the default Press settings, which leave Preserve Halftone Screen deselected. But I will certainly check because there seem to be a lot of variables that can cause problems. Sounds as if I need my own copy of Pitstop Pro as well.
Thanks,
Catherine Osborn
Peter Kleinheider
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