P�l Wrote:

"The problem, however, starts when this type of
comparion is used to say 
something about the original. To take an example. If I
compare a 
high-end turntable playing vinyl records with, say, a
low resolution digital 
recording like minidisc, by taping both to a cassette
tape and then say 
that minidisc sounds equally good as LP because I
can't hear any 
difference on a tape, or perhaps even better because
of lack of noise.  
Surely someone would say the whole setup was bogus.
However, it may make 
sense from a pragmatic point of view if it turns out
that I copy all my 
music to tape."

Good analogy. I surpirsed no one had made the
comparison of analog & digital sound recording mediums
to this whole film vs digital arguement.

Most audiophiles agree that the analog sound is
superior...providing you have a top-notch turn-table
for example. Many music artists record on an analog
equipment, and then may mix digitally, since they feel
that recording digitally has a very "cold" sound &
does not pick up all the detail that analog equipment
does. Analog recording sound much more "warm".

But for 95% of the population, a cheap CD player
delivers great sound...and cheap to produce CD's that
sell for 500 times the price make record companies
more money than do producing records.

Funny thing about this whole "digital camera quality
thing" is that when I recently looked back at John
Shaw's first "How To" book published in 1984, I marvel
at the incredible sharpness & grain-free images he
produced with 35mm equipment & film & old manual
equipment. Incredible quality by ANY standard. And get
this, this book was printed in the 1980's!!

So does all this new digital equipment increase our
enjoyment & appreciation of photography? No, but it
makes gear-hungry buyers buy more gear & the camera
companies fatter. 

The latest and the greatest sells. Period.

Peter




--- P�l_Jensen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Mark wrote:
> 
> > What I like about Michael Reichmann's approach is
> that he *doesn't* do this:
> > He judges by the final results - he compares
> prints vs. prints, which is
> > really what it's all about in the end.
> 
> 
> Nope. He is compariung the quality of two digital
> cameras; one of them capturing images of film. Now,
> I've nothing against this kind of comparisons from a
> pragmatic point of view. I mean, if the person in
> question let all his images through this process
> anyway he may be only interested in the end result.
> Mind you, this is an uncommon stance as hardly
> anyone use great lenses, fine grained film, or
> larger format primarily because the end result
> demands it (after all, in the final print you can
> hardly see the difference between a third party lens
> and top original lenses. Still many prefer the
> latter anyway), but because they want the best
> possible original so that they have larger freedom
> when it comes to end results. 
> The problem, however, starts when this type of
> comparion is used to say something about the
> original. To take an example. If I compare a
> high-end turntable playing vinyl records with, say,
> a low resolution digital recording like minidisc, by
> taping both to a cassette tape and then say that
> minidisc sounds equally good as LP because I can't
> hear any difference on a tape, or perhaps even
> better because of lack of noise.  Surely someone
> would say the whole setup was bogus. However, it may
> make sense from a pragmatic point of view if it
> turns out that I copy all my music to tape. 
> 
> P�l
> 


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