I certainly hope they do see what I said.
I stand by every word.
What in the hell are "deserving hobbists"?
Do they sell their photos and donate the money to charity?
Give me a break...Do you honestly beleive that
photographers are somehow "better" people than collectors?
Absurd Notion. 
JCO

> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Sunday, February 09, 2003 11:29 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: posting eBay auctions-was:30mm f2.8 on ebay
> 
> 
> John,
> 
> I apologize for baiting you, but does everybody see what you just said?
> Any ADVANCED collector/hobbyest on the list who sees a bargain 
> should grab 
> it, and 'to hell' with the rest of the PDML.  Any PDML member who 
> announces 
> an eBay bargain should expect the ADVANCED collector/hobbyests on 
> the list to 
> grab it and resell it later.  I don't think that those good 
> Samaritans were 
> quite anticipating this outcome.
> 
> Regards,  Bob S.
> 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> 
> > I am an ADVANCED collector/hobbiest and user of both screwmount
> >  and K mount Pentax equipment. By the word ADVANCED collector
> >  I mean that when I come across very undervalued equipment for sale
> >  I already have, I buy it again for tradebait or to resell
> >  at a modest profit to help buy stuff I dont have.
> >  
> >  A non-ADVANCED collector/hobbiest passes up on great deals on stuff
> >  just because "he already has ONE". Big mistake. The more
> >  stuff you can buy low & trade/resell, the more your PRIMARY collection
> >  grows for less funds outlaid. That's how advanced
> >  collectors operate in most fields of collecting, not
> >  just cameras. I also collect LPs and slotcars. All of
> >  my veteran collecting friends in those hobbies do the same
> >  thing. Why not put your knowledge of the fields/values to work 
> for you???
> >  Seems silly ( or Lazy ) not to.....
> >  JCO
> >  
> >  > -----Original Message-----
> >  > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> >  > Sent: Sunday, February 09, 2003 9:42 PM
> >  > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >  > Subject: Re: posting eBay auctions-was:30mm f2.8 on ebay
> >  >
> >  >
> >  > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> >  >
> >  > >  On the other hand, I like when other PDMLers
> >  > >  mention rare or low BIN items. I recently got
> >  > >  a nice 100-m 2.8 for $50 BIN due to a "heads up" post.
> >  >
> >  > JCO,
> >  >
> >  > I don't want to pick on you, but consider your example.
> >  > The M 100mm f2.8 that you got for $50 was a great bargain.
> >  > It was listed at a BIN (Buy-It-Now) price that was less than half
> >  > its real value.
> >  >
> >  > I saw the lens before you purchased it.
> >  > I thought about snatching the bargain, but I have two copies now...
> >  > So, I decided to leave it for the next fellow who wanted one.
> >  > I put it on my ebay watch list and shortly found it was 
> bought by you.
> >  >
> >  > You took advantage of the PDML notice and grabbed it.
> >  > I don't fault you for it, but you have a lot of screw mount 
> Pentax stuff.
> >  > You are always buying screwmount on ebay and often selling too.
> >  > Perhaps you are a collector/hobbiest and support your hobby 
> by buying and
> >  > selling Pentax equipment.  I've considered doing this myself.
> >  >
> >  > And there is the rub...
> >  > There are dealers on the PDML.  There are collector/hobbiests on
> >  > the PDML.  And there are pure photographers on the list.  I would 
> >  > rather see a lens go to a deserving hobbyist who was going to use 
> >  > it than to a collector or to a reseller.
> >  >
> >  > Regards, Bob S.
> 

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