Stan Halpin wrote: > When I ask for a "full frame" 8x10 at my local store, I always expect a > 6.66x10, I always get a 8x12 instead. If I want it in an 8x10 frame, I need > to crop it...
Huh. If I order a "full frame 8x10", the folks at the lab that does machine prints ask, "Do you mean an 8x12 machine print, or do you want a hand-printed 8x10 with borders?" as I recall (it's been a while since I've been able to afford either). At the other lab, they ask, "You mean with borders, right?" because apparently some customers get confused and say full-frame when they mean "fill the page". I'm pretty sure all my 6.66x10-on-8x10-paper prints were done on enlargers, not minilabs. Now I'm wondering (idle curiosity) which approach is more common at other labs when a customer asks for "full frame 8x10" -- deliver 8x12, deliver 8x10 with borders, or point out that 8x10 from 35mm is a crop and ask for clarification. The only time a lab gave me an 8x12 when I'd asked for an 8x10 was when the printer said he *really* didn't think the crop would look right, but that he could trim it with a paper cutter if I still wanted it that way after I'd looked at the 8x12. I decided he was right and kept it as an 8x12. (I'm sure some folks would find that annoying or insulting, but these folks know me well enough to figure out what level of advice like that I'll find apropriate, given the questions I ask them at other times.) All my other 8x12 prints are that size either because I specifically wanted them that way or because I wanted a full-frame on 8x10 paper but couldn't afford hand printing so I ordered 8x12 instead. I wouldn't be surprised to find that there's at least one minilab that can print full-frame-with-borders on 8x10 paper, but I haven't run into one set up to do that. My earlier comments on how close to full-frame the different labs I've used can print refer to 4x6 and 8x12 prints from 35mm; they obviously don't apply to 4x5, 5x7, or 8x10 fill-the-paper prints from 35mm. -- Glenn