I see. So Peking is just the western name similar to the way we call "Germany" "Germany" when the natives call it Deutschland. (spelling?) JCO ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- J.C. O'Connell mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://jcoconnell.com ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
-----Original Message----- From: frank theriault [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, December 27, 2003 9:47 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: OT - Chinese Ducks-was: Happy Holidays to All I'm guessing that for the people of Beijing (who mostly speak Mandarin), it's always been Beijing (or at least it has been for a long time). As for what we Westerners are supposed to call it, I think it's only been in the last 10 or 15 years that I've been aware of the "change", but then I could be wrong... cheers, frank "The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears it is true." -J. Robert Oppenheimer >From: "J. C. O'Connell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: RE: OT - Chinese Ducks-was: Happy Holidays to All >Date: Sat, 27 Dec 2003 09:43:09 -0500 > >what year did Peking become Beijing? Was that 1948? I dont know for >sure but I seem to remember 1948 as being a key date in Chinese history. >Very vague memory so I'm probably wrong.... >--------------------------------------------------------------------------- - > J.C. O'Connell mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://jcoconnell.com >--------------------------------------------------------------------------- - > >-----Original Message----- >From: frank theriault [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Sent: Saturday, December 27, 2003 9:37 AM >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: Re:OT - Chinese Ducks-was: Happy Holidays to All > > >Hi, Alan, > >Well, you didn't answer my question about Peking Duck, but that's okay. ><vbg> > >I didn't know that Peking was Cantonese, though. I thought it was an >English bastardization of Beijing, since I did once see Peking referred to >as the city's "colonial" name. Thanks for setting me straight. > >I also didn't know that Mandarin is spoken in Taiwan. I knew that Mandarin >is spoken in Beijing and much of China, and that Cantonese is from around >Hong Kong. > >Believe it or not, two of my children took Chinese (Mandarin) classes for a >couple of years. They were actually "heritage language classes", I think >intended more for children of Chinese descent to learn (or re-learn) their >mother tongue. But, they were done by the school board, and as such were >free and open to anyone - in fact the more students of any ethnicity, the >better chance the classes had of surviving funding cuts. > >I just love taking my kids with me to Chinatown here in Toronto, and >getting >them to say "thank you" for me in restaurants and the like. We always get >extra fortune cookies that way! > >cheers, >frank > >"The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The >pessimist >fears it is true." -J. Robert Oppenheimer > > > > > >From: "Alan Chan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >Subject: Re:OT - Chinese Ducks-was: Happy Holidays to All > >Date: Fri, 26 Dec 2003 22:07:35 -0800 > > > >Believe it or not, Peking & Beijing are the same in Chinese writing > >(although the Chinese Communists made a mess and invented the Simplified > >Chinese writing, and distorted the usage of many Chinese words along the > >way), just different pronunciation. Peking is Cantonese, Beijing is > >Mandarin. Just in case you might not know, Taiwanese speak Mandarin and >use > >Traditional Chinese writing. The mainland China use Mandarin but >simplified > >Chinese writing, while HK people speak Cantonese and use traditional > >Chinese writing. So it is possible that 2 Chinese spoken people might not > >be able to communicate depends on where they came from. Great huh!! > > > >Yours regards, > >Alan Chan > >http://www.pbase.com/wlachan > > > >>I've always wondered, > >> > >>Now that we no longer call the capital of The People's Republic of China > >>by it's colonial name of Peking, and now call it "Beijing", must we do >the > >>same for the duck? > >> > >>Is it now Beijing Duck? > >> > >>Just curious. > > > >_________________________________________________________________ > >Tired of spam? Get advanced junk mail protection with MSN 8. > >http://join.msn.com/?page=dept/bcomm&pgmarket=en-ca&RU=http%3a%2f%2fjoin.ms >n.com%2f%3fpage%3dmisc%2fspecialoffers%26pgmarket%3den-ca > > > >_________________________________________________________________ >Help STOP SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* >http://join.msn.com/?page=dept/bcomm&pgmarket=en-ca&RU=http%3a%2f%2fjoin.ms n >.com%2f%3fpage%3dmisc%2fspecialoffers%26pgmarket%3den-ca > _________________________________________________________________ Add photos to your e-mail with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/photos&pgmarket=en-ca&RU=http%3a%2f%2fjoi n.msn.com%2f%3fpage%3dmisc%2fspecialoffers%26pgmarket%3den-ca
