Hello Tanya,

I don't shoot as many weddings as you, but even when using film
cameras, my lab would do the B&W conversion for me (Agfa D-Lab).  So
generally I would just inform the couple that any shot they want can
be in B&W.

When doing portraits, I have sometimes had proofs made in both color
and B&W.  And yes, I have had occasion to have someone request color
when they have seen B&W.  So since digital output from my lab came
about, I have been shooting the same way as I will be with the *istD.
All color and then after the fact changing to B&W.

One thing that I usually do with a wedding is have 6-8 8X10's made up
of shots that I think are great.  They are given to the couple along
with the proof book.  I do these on speculation that they
will buy them (only 1 8X10 so far hasn't been purchased).  This is
where I would get the B&W shot or two done.  I have found that when
the couple can see big shots, they are much happier, because imagining
what it will look like (both size and color) from the proof isn't as
easy for them.

-- 
Best regards,
Bruce



Tuesday, January 6, 2004, 2:20:45 PM, you wrote:

TMP> This is an interesting discussion, and brings up another of my "issues" with
TMP> dropping film for digital.  I am interested to know *how* it is that you
TMP> guys approach the "mindset" of shooting a shot for bw/colour with digital.
TMP> I know that usually when I am shooting with film, I will shoot a shot in
TMP> colour and instinctly say to the couple "hang on, we'll do that again, that
TMP> would be an even better shot in BW", AND likewise, many a time, I see a shot
TMP> and just *know* that I need to shoot it in black and white and so do so.
TMP> That option isn't available for digital, so *how* do I get around this?  How
TMP> do I shoot a shot in colour that I *should* have shot in black and white and
TMP> then *hope* that once I convert it, it looks as I had imagined.  AND, how
TMP> the heck, in a wedding of say 300 proofs, do I remember which ones I shot
TMP> with the express intentions of them being black and white and which ones
TMP> were *meant* to be in colour...

TMP> One good thing though is having the option to do both with all images.  I
TMP> often get an older family member (usually brides mother) who says, "gee that
TMP> is a lovely shot, but I wish it were in colour".  Of course, it is not an
TMP> issue if it is the other way around as you can always remove the colour, but
TMP> not add it if it was shot in bw to begin with...

TMP> hope i'm making sense here, didn't get much sleep last night due to restless
TMP> kidlets....

TMP> tan.


>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: Shel Belinkoff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> >
>> >
>> > I still don't like the idea, though, of including
>> > desaturated color in
>> > the B&W section of the PUG .... odd, in some ways, don't you think?
>>
>> Yes.
>>
>> tv
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