Yet another abusive post ERN. Very good. Well done. I am sure your gallery will love it. However calling someone a Jackass doesnt win an argument, nor make you right, it just makes you look abusive. "50mm becomes xmm on a digital camera" is easy enough to understand, as is the 35mm equivalent of lens x is y. Both are acceptable phrasing and language - only you, greyworld and alling seem to have problems with it. The rest of the web, and some more authoritative sites than this seem to use them without a problem. I have not misrepresented greyworld at all. Did you miss the bit that said (and I quote):
<<"My 50mm lens becomes 200mm lens is just BS pure and simple. The whole thing seems to be a form of penis envy, "Mine is bigger than yours".>> It is not bullshit as greyworld has said - it means that my 50mm lens becomes a xmm lens (i.e. The AOV changes) when you use it on a digital camera. Antonio P.s. Penis envy is a term originally applied to women, as they do not have a penis of their own ;-). On 14/8/04 6:57 pm, "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Antonio wondered: >> Aha, here comes the rest of the lynch Mob. How is it you only join threads I >> am in to attack me? > > Because you are a jackass and I think some of your more asinine posts require > correction. > >> I am quite capable of speaking for myself thanks - your representation of my >> comments is in fact (surprise, surprise) wrong. Boy you guys do like >> spinning it, dont you. > > "Thanks"?? > I'm not offering to speak for you. I'm pointing out that you misrepresented > what someone else said, in order to disagree with your version of what he > said. > (Which is something of a pattern with you.) Unfortunately for your credibility > (assuming you still have any around here) the very thing you quoted > demonstrated what you were doing. > > >> Saying that a 50mm lens becomes a an xxxmm lens is not "bullshit" as >> greyworld would make out (notice he also later went on to state that "the >> whole thing seems a form a penis envy" - a curious thing to say when >> discussing focal lenghs, angles of view and lenses...). I guess some people >> cant open their mouths without splurting out profanities. > > As a woman, I have no interest in the topic of "penis envy". But I will > discuss > lenses. A 50mm lens does not BECOME any other focal length of lens, ever, just > by virtue of being attached to a different format of camera. Graywolf, whom > you > quoted, said it made perfect sense to state that a 50mm on a particular > digital > camera would be EQUIVALENT TO (some other focal length) on 35mm. But, as he > went on to point out, saying it "becomes" that is untrue. Incorrect. Total > nonsense. He used a word that you quoted and I generally don't use. > Now, if "greyworld" is a different person who said something else that you > want > to rebut, then you should quote that person along with your rebuttal. > >> >> Using the 35mm equivalent measure is very much standard practice and very >> much widely used. It refers to AOV and how this changes depending on sensor >> size (refered to as the crop factor). > > > Yes, you're right on both counts, but ... > >> And when people say x becomes y they >> are referring to AOV, and are entirely correct. > > .. now you're wrong. When people say x becomes y, they MAY BE referring to AOV > and just sloppy in their language, or they may actually believe that x becomes > y (in which case they're misunderstanding what happens). Either way the > statement is in fact incorrect. > Now, if it's obvious from the context that they're just using sloppy language > and they're communicating with other people who understand what they mean, > communication works fine. But if it's not clear that they know what they > really > mean, or if their audience includes people who don't know what they really > mean, then confusion can result. Therefore, it's best not to use the incorrect > phrasing. > > ERN >
