I personally dislike the lens themes.  I figure though if some individuals
can occasionally submit images taken with non-Pentax cameras, that I can
break the theme rules from time to time.

Tom C.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Chris Brogden" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, April 27, 2001 12:47 PM
Subject: Re: Gallery Themes


> On Fri, 27 Apr 2001, Norman Baugher wrote:
>
> > One of the unfortunate realities of life, is that sometimes it's not
fair.
> > Learn to live with it.
> > Norm
>
> Fine.  I propose that we introduce "Snow" and "Prairie" themes.  Hell,
> let's go all the way and have a "Canadian landscape" theme.  After all,
> life isn't fair, right?  Like I said, I don't care either way.  There was
> a big stink raised on the list earlier over some non-inclusive themes, so
> I'm playing the Devil's Advocate and pointing out (as someone already did
> earlier) that these particular themes are exculsionary, where the others
> are not.  There are only two questions to think about here.
>
> (1) Are PUG themes supposed to be inclusive or not?  That is, provided
> that someone has the interest and ability to submit an entry, should the
> themes themselves be such that anyone can submit, or is it okay to have
> themes like "Landscapes in Canada" and "Short telephoto (pictures made
> with lenses in the 70mm to 150mm range)" that would seem to prevent some
> people from submitting?
>
> And (2) if the PUG is supposed to be inclusive, then are wide angle and
> telephoto themes exclusionary or not?  I'm not saying that they are or are
> not.  I'm just suggesting the possibility that they are and am waiting to
> see how people feel about it.  So far no one has put forth any arguments,
> intelligent or not, to say that they are not exclusionary.  All I've seen
> so far are posts saying that life is exclusionary and unfair and that we
> should shut up and accept it.  If you feel like that, then you obviously
> don't feel that the regular PUG *themes* are supposed to be inclusive.
> Fine.  Personally, it doesn't matter to me if the PUG is inclusive or not.
> It's not like I've been submitting photos for the past 10 years to it.
> :)  But if it's not going to be inclusive, I want some snow themes,
> dang it.  *L*
>
> P.S. If anyone has any reasons why the lens-specific themes are not
> exclusionary, I'd love to hear it.  But please, no more "life is
> unfair" responses that don't address the issue.
>
> chris
>
>
>
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