On 29 Dec 2004 at 11:34, Shel Belinkoff wrote:

> No, pros didn't throw away the bad ones.  They were saved on contact sheets 
> and
> negatives, and became valuable tools in both the editing process and helping 
> the
> photographer understand the shooting process.  many photogs "shoot to a 
> climax"
> and having all the frames available is most helpful. And sometimes, years 
> later,
> the "bad one" could turn out to be a money maker, or have some value for a
> client.

Many pros used to shoot slides and then readily discard what they deemed  
unacceptable at the time.

> The question I have is unrelated to shooting a lot of frames.  It would be
> nice to know why the DSLR shooters on this list feel a need to *tell
> everyone* how many hundreds or thousands of frames they've shot.

I think you are trying to read a whole lot more into this than is really 
necessary. I've seen plenty of documentaries where long time famous 
photographers are quite willing to volunteer this information.

> Most
> respond to that question as you did: shooting more can improve their
> photography.  We all know that that's true to a certain extent.

Read again, most have said it really doesn't matter but ultimately as a 
percentage that they have more keepers.

> So why
> mention the number of frames shot?  It doesn't seem to reflect any
> discernable improvement in many cases, based on the images posted to the
> PAW, PESO, and PUG.  The good photogs are still good, and the poor photogs
> are still struggling even after 5,000 images.

LOL, I think you'll find inherent artistic skill remains a relative constant, I 
bet most peoples technical skills and keeper volumes are improving though.

> Frankly, I think many photogs are too busy checking histograms and playing
> with their modes instead of concentrating on subject matter, composition,
> lighting, focusing, and interpretation.

Frankly I don't know what to make of this paragraph, I certainly don't have a 
problem with doing all the above :-)



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