Quoting Graywolf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

> 'sokay, Bill. There is a lot of that on the list (GRIN).
> 
> The point I made, which everyone seemed to miss, was that really good 
> photographers don't make a lot of worthless photos, and hardly ever screw
> up 
> technically. I guess most of those who answered do both, but think they are
> 
> really good photographers.
> 
> There is a guy over on apug.com (analog photographers users group) who's
> tag 
> line is "You buy a camera and you are a photographer, you buy a piano and
> you 
> own a piano". 


OH, I like that line!!! That's a keeper in the same file as "what a great 
meal; you must have really good pots!"



> His point is of course that buying a camera does not make you
> a 
> photographer any more than buying a piano makes you a concert pianist. With
> the 
> camera or piano, some instruction, and a lot of directed practice you can
> become 
> as good a photographer or pianist as you are capable of. But both require a
> lot 
> of work. There is also something to be said about player pianos and
> automatic 
> cameras, but I think that would be obvious to anyone who thinks about it.
> 
> You do not learn to paint by slapping paint on a piece of canvas and
> tossing it 
> away. You do not learn photography by snapping the shutter and tossing it
> away. 
> You try and do the best you can. Then you look at it and analyze it and try
> to 
> figure out how you could have done it better. You go out and try that. Then
> you 
> compare the results. Based on that you repeat the process over and over. 
> Eventually you get to where what you want and what you get is nearly one
> for one.
> 
> Has anyone here seen the contacts of Alfred Eisenstaedt's shoot of his
> wife's 
> (Georga O'Keffe) hands? He shot three rolls of almost identical photos. Any
> one 
> of those shots would look great on the wall. None of them were "I wonder
> how 
> this will turn out" shots. When you look closely though you notice none of
> them 
> were actually identical. He was trying to fine tune what he knew was a
> great 
> photo into the perfect photo. Totally the antithesis of the MG technique.


MG=Machine Gun, I'm assuming? 

 
> The advice to shoot lots of film is for people who shoot two rolls of film
> a 
> year and can not seem to improve. Anyone who is shooting a roll or two (or
> 
> equivalent) a week and not improving is not working at it. Shooting a
> thousand 
> shots a week in the hope that one will be decent makes you every bit as
> capable 
> as a wall mounted surveillance camera.


I recently gave a lot of thought to how digital has changed my shooting 
style -- I wasn't entirely happy about the direction I was going -- and 
decided that although I was getting ready to buy another memory card (which I 
needed because I have started to use RAW more) I would, deliberately, NOT 
purchase the largest card I could afford but restrict myself to no more than 
what I felt I really *needed*. I want to arrest my own march toward "machine-
gunning" and so find a balance between that and shooting enough to properly 
cover a subject and improve my technique. 

Your post has put the very issue I was considering into excellent words.

ERNR

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