Can I add a me too to your excellent post John?
Mark MacLean and I had a conversation this morning, including a discussion
about whether we needed a full-frame sensor in a future Pentax: my view is
that, in the past I seldom made prints bigger than 11x14 from film, either
colour or mono, and I am now making very satisfactory A4 prints, some of
which are from cropped digital frames. Ergo, there is no need for me to
want a larger sensor. I would definitely like IS for action and longer
lenses, but that's about all (maybe a higher frame-rate, but not essential).
I am well aware that, for some of those who make a living from photography,
particularly in the PJ field, the current cameras may fall short of what you
need/want: if so, please don't whinge and whine here because it won't do any
good! Follow the rest and go buy the 1DS Mark X and all the legendary
lenses that Pentax, you say, no longer make, because you will then have
nothing more to complain about except your aching back and busted wallet!
Me, I'm well content.
John Coyle
Brisbane, Australia
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From: "John Forbes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Sunday, October 02, 2005 6:05 AM
Subject: Re: Pentax Future? What's next for Pentax...
Tom,
The continual negativism on this forum doesn't make it a better place, and
it certainly doesn't HELP Pentax. What is does is to distort people's
assessment of Pentax's true position.
You wouldn't think so from some of the posts, but Pentax is a profitable
company. It clearly went through a hard time when it was forced to abandon
the MZ-D, and I personally think it has bounced back from that rather
well. A company with less financial muscle, and less commitment to
photography, would have given up then. The fact that it didn't speaks
volumes.
As the more level-headed members of this site point out, the current DSLR
range (the D, incidentally, is still available) meets the needs of most
people, even most PDML members. Yes, it would be nice to have extra bells
and whistles, but most of us don't actually need them, and many of us
wouldn't pay very much for them. That's not to deny that there are some
photographers whose needs are clearly not well served by the present
line-up. However, they are a small minority, and with luck (and a little
time), the D replacement will address their problems.
It is noteworthy that there are now very few list members left who have
not bought a Pentax DSLR. Clearly, there must be something good about
them.
In my view the Pentax DSLRs provide a much better picture-taking
experience than any 35mm film camera, and I expect my two D bodies to be
active for some time to come, whatever the future of Pentax. That means I
will continue to buy lenses.
John
On Sat, 01 Oct 2005 20:20:45 +0100, Tom C <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
In answer to your last question, yes I've perceived that to be the case
sometimes, but not with the Chongwagon comment. However, it's not all
whining and negativism. Some of it's an ongoing analysis and, yes,
speculation regarding the future of the brand, and therefore the wisdom
of future potential 'investments'.
I single-handedly, and others who tend to share the same views, will not
make those views come true. Pentax, having marketed and produced in the
manner they have, are responsible for their image, ranking in the
marketplace.
Tom C.
From: "John Forbes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [email protected]
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Pentax Future? What's next for Pentax...
Date: Sat, 01 Oct 2005 19:38:16 +0100
Which is a pretty big market if you think about it, in MF terms.
Why don't you post a lot more negative messages about Pentax? That way
you'll make your worst fears come true.
It seems to me that in life we need a certain amount of optimism.
People who get things done are optimists; people who whinge and
bellyache are not nice to know and tend not to amount to much.
Have you noticed that the most prolific posters of pictures on this
site, and the best photographers, do not as a rule jump on the
Chongwagon. They just get on with life and take pictures.
John
On Sat, 01 Oct 2005 18:33:47 +0100, Tom C <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Yep. I can't see the market for a 645D being too much more than
owners of a film Pentax 645 system.
Tom C.
From: "Rob Studdert" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [email protected]
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Pentax Future? What's next for Pentax...
Date: Sat, 01 Oct 2005 10:45:48 +1000
On 30 Sep 2005 at 15:17, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Formats are only names now. A 645D would probably be no larger or
heavier than
> the current Canon D1s Mark II, and Pentax has already said it's
sensor won't be
> true 645 dimensions. Most prosumers cameras and some pro models
will probably
> remain APS-C. It's all just semantics. Paul
The difference is that in reality by the time the 645D comes to
market (if at
all) there will likely be very little advantage between a top end
Canon DSLR
kit and the 645D technically. And if I had to buy a new set of lenses
(which I
would if I had to buy a 645D to get anything remotely top end out of
Pentax)
I'd definitely buy into the Canon system and I can't imagine other
people in my
position not doing the same.
Rob Studdert
HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA
Tel +61-2-9554-4110
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Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998
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