> It's akin to choosing the correct film and exposing it accurately. The camera 
> is too dumb to do that perfectly, >and it can't read the photographer's mind.
>Paul

I'll agree with Ann on this. When I adjust black/white point, its an admission 
that I've come up short as a photographer. Coming from my slide shooting 
background, my goal is to get it right in the camera.

YMMV

Kenneth Waller



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Subject: Re: GESO: stuff from my bus/train trip

Hi Ann,
I don't think anyone would say that adjusting black point in a digital image is 
manipulation. There's no such thing as a "pure" digital image. The camera is 
manipulating the image according to preset parameters. The photographer 
certainly can adjust those same parameters to achieve the vision he or she had 
hoped to record. In fact, I would say the photographer is obligated to fine 
tune a digital image. It's akin to choosing the correct film and exposing it 
accurately. The camera is too dumb to do that perfectly, and it can't read the 
photographer's mind.
Paul


> Butch Black wrote:
> > 
> > Nice series Ann. I particularly liked bus stop in Redmond Ca. and morning
> > coffee. 
> 
> Thanks, Butch - I like to hear which ones stand
> out to different folk.
> 
> >I liked the space needle but think it could use a bit of contrast.
> > Try using the black eyedropper on the needle if you are using PS, Elements,
> > or most of the other image editing programs.
> > 
> > Butch
> 
> 
> hmmm I think that would fall under the heading of
> manipulation and I
> like not to do that... I see what you mean,
> though,  but just barely.  
> 
> I use photoshop elements 2.0, for the record.
> never used eyedropper tool.
> 
> ann
> 



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