On Thursday, October 20, 2005, at 10:51  AM, graywolf wrote:

Unfortunately he never seems to have considered what happens if you lose that revolution as in the case of the Confederate States.


That wasn't really a revolution. It was a secession followed by a bloody invasion. I don't know about other states, but Virginia reserved the right to secede when she joined the Union, and later chose to exercise that right. When Lincoln's army crossed into Virginia, it was the invasion of one sovereign nation by another, and in violation of a duly executed peace treaty between the two nations. It never was, in any sense, a civil war.

Bob

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