Thanks Christian. You are the resident bird expert, so I appreciate your input 
very much. I agree that a crop eliminating the white would be most pleasing. I 
can certainly do that for a web image. Perhaps even for a small print. I now 
have a dozen or so birds that were all shot at this nature center. They want me 
to put together a small show for their learning center, so I'm probably going 
to print them all up. When posting on the web, I generally don't crop to a size 
that's useless for printing. I'll have to look at that. 

I have become a firm believer in handheld bird photography. Too many misses 
with a tripod. At 1/750th or faster and with flash fill, handheld works out 
rather well. Probably not good enough for serious bird work, but good enough 
for my personal entertainment:-) I have done a few off the tripod, and I'll 
probably do some more, but I find it very limiting.
Paul
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From: Christian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > This never made my mail. My apologies if it's a duplicate for others.
> > 
> > Another bird from Sunday's walk. Some kind of finch I would guess. This 
> > is more of a crop -- about half of the frame. So there's more visible 
> > noise. But I still like it. *istD A400/5.6, 5/6 @ 1/750. ISO 800, fill 
> > flash from the Sigma Super with the Kirk Flash Xtender. Handheld of 
> > course.
> > Paul
> > http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=4194560&size=lg
> > 
> > 
> 
> Hi Paul, I think it is a winter-plumage goldfinch.
> 
> to me the noise is far less distracting than the huge blob of white on 
> the left.  I know it's already cropped, but a more vertical crop, 
> eliminating the white would make it look better to me.
> 
> That's pretty freakin good for hand held!  :-)
> 
> -- 
> 
> Christian
> http://photography.skofteland.net
> 

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