Yes, the LH cars were better than most front drivers when it came to ease of repair. The K cars were also better than a lot of imports and the GM And Ford front drivers of the eighties. Chrysler always focused on ease of repair. But in regard to the LH cars, "were" is the operative word. They're gone. Replaced by the rear drive Chrysler 300 and Dodge Charger. Paul On Jul 24, 2006, at 6:37 PM, Adam Maas wrote:
> Bob, > > Go pop the hood on a Chrysler LH car (Intrepid, 300M, Vision or > Concorde) and tell me there's no room to work on a FWD car. It really > does depend on the car. > > I still will insist that CV Joints make a FWD car more expensive to > miantain if everything else is equal, but that's my experience with > AWD/4WD coming out (the front end is always the moneysink in AWD/4WD > setups, usually due to CV joint wear. Luckily not everything is as bad > as a Saab 99 or Chevy S10 4WD. > > -Adam > > > > Bob Sullivan wrote: >> Gonz, >> Thanks. Godfrey's "I know it all" attitude was beginning to get >> on my nerves. >> The bullshit detector was going off every time I read his commentary. >> I've pulled the transmissions on RWD cars and wouldn't even try a >> FWD. >> Things are way too cramped in a modern engine compartment with FWD. >> Regards, Bob S. >> >> On 7/24/06, Gonz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >>> >>> Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: >>> >>>> On Jul 24, 2006, at 12:52 PM, Gonz wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>> ... that's really more a reflection of the quality of the >>>>>> design than the type. >>>>> >>>>> I'm sorry, but you're still not convincing me. I've changed >>>>> transmissions on both types of cars and there is a *world* of >>>>> difference. >>>> >>>> >>>> As I said, differences in difficulty reflect the quality/ >>>> serviceability of a particular design and are not indicative of a >>>> type distinction. I probably pulled, overhauled and reassembled at >>>> least 100 transaxle and separate component setups over the years >>>> since 1971 and today. >>>> >>> >>> IMO, the particular design doesnt matter. What matters is that the >>> basic assembly is the same. On a FWD, in order to move the split >>> shaft >>> assembly out of the tranny case, you have to take the wheels off, >>> loosen >>> and move to the side the brake assembly, loosen the suspension >>> from the >>> wheel assembly, probably loosen and/or remove the major >>> suspension frame >>> member closest to the tranny (because that member usually holds the >>> tranny mount and the tranny usually has to come downwards to get >>> out), >>> loosen the shaft support on the long side of the shaft, take the >>> short >>> shaft off the tranny and the wheel assembly, and finally pull off >>> the >>> long shaft. Now, you've just gotten started. You next have to >>> support >>> the engine, take one or more engine mounts off (this is usually >>> because >>> there is not enough space to pull the tranny off the engine in its >>> normal position and you will have to drop the engine/tranny assembly >>> downwards), take a huge part of the junk above the tranny and engine >>> (air intake assembly, battery, etc, 90% of the time, this is just >>> to get >>> to the top side bolts from the top). Pulling it out is no fun >>> either, >>> in theses transverse mounted situations, there is barely enough >>> space to >>> do it and it first has to come straight out then a bit of a tilt >>> before >>> coming down, all the while permanent crap like air conditioning >>> hoses >>> keep getting in your way. Of course you could take them out, but >>> then >>> you have to put it back and evacuate/re-charge the cooling >>> system, not fun. >>> >>> Compare that to a RWD, where I've never run into anything remotely >>> resembling the difficulty of a FWD tranny replacement. Its >>> pretty much >>> a simple shaft loosening, hose and linkage removal, followed by >>> dropping >>> the tranny, no suspension hacking, no wheel/brake/air >>> conditioning/air >>> intake stuff ever. >>> >>> Give me a RWD job any time. >>> >>> >>>> Some are a major pain in the ass. Others are a piece of cake. Of >>>> both >>>> types. >>>> >>>> Which ones have you worked on? >>>> >>> >>> Mini-vans are the worst FWD, small cars can be real bad. >>> American are >>> worse than foreign. >>> >>> For RWD, like I've said, never ran into a hard one. Trucks are a >>> joy. >>> >>> Never done a 4WD yet. >>> >>> >>>> Godfrey >>>> >>> >>> -- >>> Someone handed me a picture and said, "This is a picture of me >>> when I >>> was younger." Every picture of you is when you were younger. >>> "...Here's >>> a picture of me when I'm older." Where'd you get that camera man? >>> - Mitch Hedberg >>> >>> -- >>> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >>> [email protected] >>> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >>> >> >> > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > [email protected] > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List [email protected] http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
