Me!

Especially because all those features just do something I already know 
how to do myself. You can read a 12 page camera manual and a 200 page 
book on photography; or you can read a 200 page camera manual, and a 200 
page book on photography, so you know when to turn on those hundreds of 
features. Four controls and a bit of knowledge, or 100's of controls you 
can not use without that knowledge anyway. Of course if you know 
nothing, 100 features sounds more impressive than 4 basic controls, 
doesn't it?

I have come to the conclusion that cameras are no longer made for 
photographers.

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P. J. Alling wrote:
> I'm not complaining, just pointing out that it just adds to the feature 
> list.  The length of the manual explaining all the features in the 
> *ist-Ds sent Ann running back to a Canon ZLR when she rightfully belongs 
> in the Pentax fold.   I wonder how many other people are more 
> intimidated than enticed by huge numbers of features.
> 
> Aaron Reynolds wrote:
> 
>> I also will not use  this feature -- but since a simple change to a 
>> preference setting will cause the switch to behave as a regular DOF preview, 
>> just like on the old bodies, 
>> I see no reason to complain about it.
>>
>> -Aaron
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>>
>> From:  "P. J. Alling" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> Subj:  Re: K10D - More News
>> Date:  Fri Aug 4, 2006 4:07 pm
>> Size:  4K
>> To:  Pentax-Discuss Mail List <[email protected]>
>>
>> Unfortunately the rear screen DOFP is the same as taking a photograph 
>> you can't save.  Not to mention the fact that the resolution on the rear 
>> screen isn't really high enough to make a good determination of DOF 
>> anyway.  I personally think that it's a useless feature.  I know some 
>> will disagree.
>>
>> Tom C wrote:
>>
>>  
>>
>>> I like the on-screen DOFP.  Often hard to get a good feeling in low light 
>>> through the viewfinder.
>>>
>>> Tom C.
>>>
>>> "I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or 
>>> numbered."
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>    
>>>
>>>> From: "P. J. Alling" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>> Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List <[email protected]>
>>>> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List <[email protected]>
>>>> Subject: Re: K10D - More News
>>>> Date: Fri, 04 Aug 2006 15:51:53 -0400
>>>>
>>>> Damn, it looks to me as if Pentax has decided to add as many "features"
>>>> to the mix as possible, without asking if these are necessary to the
>>>> likely target audience.  More like, what can we implement "cheaply" to
>>>> set us apart, and get the bullet point count up.  Oh, well.  At least we
>>>> can hope the core operations and build quality will be solid.
>>>>
>>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>>>>
>>>>   
>>>>
>>>>      
>>>>
>>>>> Well, I've only actually seen photos of the latest build of it, courtesy 
>>>>>     
>>>>>
>>>>>        
>>>>>
>>>> of my
>>>>   
>>>>
>>>>      
>>>>
>>>>> Pentax rep, but at least I've got a little more information for you to 
>>>>>     
>>>>>
>>>>>        
>>>>>
>>>> chew
>>>>   
>>>>
>>>>      
>>>>
>>>>> on.  The photos were taken this week, so this is about as current as it 
>>>>>     
>>>>>
>>>>>        
>>>>>
>>>> gets.
>>>>   
>>>>
>>>>      
>>>>
>>>>> First off, the magic press-release date is September 13th.  There's still 
>>>>>     
>>>>>
>>>>>        
>>>>>
>>>> so
>>>>   
>>>>
>>>>      
>>>>
>>>>> much I haven't been able to pry from my rep that I'm dying for this date 
>>>>>     
>>>>>
>>>>>        
>>>>>
>>>> to
>>>>   
>>>>
>>>>      
>>>>
>>>>> hurry up and get here!
>>>>>
>>>>> Body + 18-55 lens should be $899.  A bit more than I expected, but still 
>>>>>     
>>>>>
>>>>>        
>>>>>
>>>> a damn
>>>>   
>>>>
>>>>      
>>>>
>>>>> good price.
>>>>>
>>>>> The name is definitely K10D (it was stamped on the body). Any remaining
>>>>> doubters can relax now.
>>>>>
>>>>> Remember in the PMA photos 
>>>>>     
>>>>>
>>>>>        
>>>>>
>>>> (http://www.dpreview.com/articles/pma2006/Pentax/),
>>>>   
>>>>
>>>>      
>>>>
>>>>> that unmarked button that was above the AF switch on the front of the 
>>>>>     
>>>>>
>>>>>        
>>>>>
>>>> camera?
>>>>   
>>>>
>>>>      
>>>>
>>>>> It's now marked RAW, and I'm told it allows you to switch the camera to 
>>>>>     
>>>>>
>>>>>        
>>>>>
>>>> RAW
>>>>   
>>>>
>>>>      
>>>>
>>>>> mode from jpg mode by pressing and holding the RAW button.  I think I 
>>>>>     
>>>>>
>>>>>        
>>>>>
>>>> would
>>>>   
>>>>
>>>>      
>>>>
>>>>> have preferred a custom white balance button, but I'm sure this function 
>>>>>     
>>>>>
>>>>>        
>>>>>
>>>> will
>>>>   
>>>>
>>>>      
>>>>
>>>>> be useful for people who shoot in jpg mode most of the time.
>>>>>
>>>>> The LCD screen is the same as on the K100D: 2.5 ", 210,000 pixels
>>>>>
>>>>> The battery grip has the same features as the grip for the *istD, though 
>>>>>     
>>>>>
>>>>>        
>>>>>
>>>> I
>>>>   
>>>>
>>>>      
>>>>
>>>>> can't say whether or not it connects to the body in the same way.
>>>>>
>>>>> The body is slightly different than the one shown at PMA, though not by 
>>>>>     
>>>>>
>>>>>        
>>>>>
>>>> much.
>>>>   
>>>>
>>>>      
>>>>
>>>>> I'd be more specific, but I didn't have much time to really study the new
>>>>> images.
>>>>>
>>>>> The mode dial on the camera's shoulder now has a lot more on it than at 
>>>>>     
>>>>>
>>>>>        
>>>>>
>>>> PMA.  I
>>>>   
>>>>
>>>>      
>>>>
>>>>> couldn't see much detail in the images, but the new stuff looked like the 
>>>>>     
>>>>>
>>>>>        
>>>>>
>>>> same
>>>>   
>>>>
>>>>      
>>>>
>>>>> sort of preset shooting modes you see on consumer cameras (sports, 
>>>>>     
>>>>>
>>>>>        
>>>>>
>>>> portrait,
>>>>   
>>>>
>>>>      
>>>>
>>>>> night scene, etc).
>>>>>
>>>>> DOF-preview now functions in a very interesting manner (apparently it 
>>>>>     
>>>>>
>>>>>        
>>>>>
>>>> does this
>>>>   
>>>>
>>>>      
>>>>
>>>>> on the K100D, but I didn't know that).  Straight out of the box, when you 
>>>>>     
>>>>>
>>>>>        
>>>>>
>>>> use
>>>>   
>>>>
>>>>      
>>>>
>>>>> the DOF-preview function, it actually takes a photo and displays it on 
>>>>>     
>>>>>
>>>>>        
>>>>>
>>>> the
>>>>   
>>>>
>>>>      
>>>>
>>>>> screen until you press halfway on the shutter button (no, the photo is 
>>>>>     
>>>>>
>>>>>        
>>>>>
>>>> not
>>>>   
>>>>
>>>>      
>>>>
>>>>> saved on your memory card).  If you want the more standard thru-the-lens 
>>>>>     
>>>>>
>>>>>        
>>>>>
>>>> DOF-
>>>>   
>>>>
>>>>      
>>>>
>>>>> preview, you can change that in a custom function menu.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> That's all I can remember.  Have fun!
>>>>>
>>>>> John Celio
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>     
>>>>>
>>>>>        
>>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> When you're worried or in doubt,
>>>>    Run in circles, (scream and shout).
>>>>
>>>>
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