Thanks George,
I've come to similar conclusions.
The movement of the sensor has to be only fractions of a 1/1000th of an inch.
Regards,  Bob S.

On 12/16/06, George Sinos <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Bob -
>
> My opinion is that if it's working, you shouldn't be able to feel it.
> If you can feel it, it will be inducing it's own blur.
>
> If the sensor is counteracting your movement I would think it's motion
> would be imperceptible.
>
> My introduction to Pentax SR was with the A10 point and shoot.  If you
> want to see the SR effect you can push a little button put there just
> for that purpose.  It's a great demonstration in my classes.
>
> I generally have the A10 connected to a digital projector so everyone
> in the class can see what I'm doing.  The screen is about six feet
> high so any hand movement is greatly magnified.  When I push the SR
> button the motion becomes damped and is very smooth.  You don't feel a
> thing vibrating in the camera.  If you couldn't see the effect on the
> screen you wouldn't have a clue that it's working.
>
> I think that's why the camera manufacturers all light up the little
> "hand" symbol to let you know you have it turned on.
>
> See you later, gs
> <http://georgesphotos.net>
>
> On 12/16/06, Bob Sullivan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Peter,
> > No personal attacks meant by my post.
> > Watching the sensor move was illustrative.
> > But I don't thnk it proved anything.
> > My confidence in Shake Reduction was undermined by all this.
> > I couldn't feel the camera DOING anything.
> > That's why I did the test and made the side by side post.
> > I can't feel thing but I can sure see results!
> > Regards,  Bob S.
> >
> > On 12/16/06, Peter Loveday <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > "The sky is falling, the sky is falling!" cried Chicken Little.
> > > > or so goes the children's tale.
> > > >
> > > > I got tired of listening to all these 'nervious nellies'.
> > > > I got tired of looking at movies of shaking sensors.
> > > > I've got the sensor cleaner turned off, so I don't feel any shaking,
> > > > or more specifically any shake reduction on the K10D.
> > > >
> > > > So is it working or not?  I shot a test this morning, see below...
> > > > I used the K10D and DA16-45mm at F4 and 1/8th of a second.
> > > >
> > > > http://picasaweb.google.com/rf.sullivan/ShakeReductionPentaxK10D
> > > >
> > > > The bubbles in the water are much sharper with SR On.
> > > >
> > > > Now think about the amount of movement the sensor did.
> > > > Not very much!  No wonder I can't feel anything.
> > > >
> > > > Do us all a favor and test your results before you whine.
> > >
> > >
> > > Hmm, I think maybe some of the recent threads have got some of us too
> > > oversensitive to comments on the list...
> > >
> > > My post of a mov of the SR wasn't an attack on you, or anyone, nor did I
> > > expect you to watch it if you didn't want to.
> > >
> > > I agree it can (and does) do amazing things; my query was more whether 
> > > mine
> > > was working reliably.  I was simpy trying to determine if my camera may 
> > > have
> > > a fault or not, I was not trying to attack the Pentax SR implementaion, or
> > > imply that your K10D didn't work in any way.
> > >
> > > Your shot doesn't show me that my K10D doesn't have a fault; I can, in
> > > general, come to a similar result as you have... but I'm not always
> > > convinced it is working reliably.
> > >
> > > Maybe its just me.  I'm sure everyone will quickly tell me to actually
> > > pictures, with the assumption that all I bought a K10D for is to sit 
> > > around
> > > and take movies of its sensor.  I'm sure many will tell me that my test is
> > > invalid, as if I'm not aware that this is an unreasonable test of SR....
> > > Yet it illustrates something I found curious, and I thought others might.
> > >
> > > I apologise for presenting any findings to this list... I won't let it
> > > happen again.
> > >
> > > For what its worth, I find the list an informative and generally fun place
> > > to be, but geez guys, lighten up...
> > >
> > > - Peter
> > >
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