On Sat, 16 Dec 2006 15:57:53 -0000, David Savage <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  
wrote:

> All thoughts comments a while back, about only submitting images of
> the utmost quality to the PUG are a crock IMHO. Post the best you can
> do, and await any constructive criticism.
>
> If I relied on the comments of friends and family, I would have
> stopped trying to do better 10 years ago.
>
> As a mediocre photographer myself, post & submit images I say.  It's
> one of the better ways to help improve your work.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Dave

Yes

John
(adopting Dave's laconic anwering style)



> On 12/16/06, Malcolm Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Tom C wrote:
>>
>> > A good 50% of the photos displayed here are nothing more than
>> > stinking street shots of homeless people or mere snapshots
>> > with very little if any consideration given to composition.
>>
>> Sadly, not living in an area of great natural beauty like your good  
>> self,
>> it's very easy to travel a very short distance and see such images which
>> would easily become photos. What we have here is a photographic  
>> conflict of
>> interest. You've also raised this in part in earlier posts this year in  
>> the
>> quality of images submitted to the PUG.
>>
>> I've submitted very few images in the last twelve months directly as a
>> result of the comments surrounding PUG and other submissions here. Most  
>> of
>> the submissions are of a very high standard -  well beyond competition  
>> for a
>> mediocre photographer like myself - and the constant 'raising of the  
>> bar'
>> makes it very difficult not to compete, but to find a place for those  
>> of a
>> lower standard to discuss what's gone right and what's gone wrong with a
>> particular shot - perhaps this no longer exists or is welcome here.
>



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