First answer: 
the conversion to a format that a minilab printer can use.

Second answer:
Somebody here has said you can't print Pentax raw files that way. I
don't have a Pentax digital camera, so I don't know. 

I have an Olympus digital camera. It says I can print direct from the
camera with a minilab printer - I am not talking here about taking the
card out and plugging the card into the printer, I am talking about
plugging the camera into the printer. It doesn't say that this
facility is limited to jpeg files, so I assume that it will print from
raw. However, I have not tried it. There is no reason at all (as I
have explained) why it should not, so I will try and I will let you
know.

--
 Bob
 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On 
> Behalf Of J. C. O'Connell
> Sent: 17 December 2006 14:36
> To: 'Pentax-Discuss Mail List'
> Subject: RE: K10D review online
> 
> what can be done in the camera? Can you print
> Pentax RAW files at a minilab from the media
> card without any user processing on a PC
> or with the camera or not? (two queations)??
> jco
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On 
> Behalf Of
> Bob W
> Sent: Sunday, December 17, 2006 3:34 AM
> To: 'Pentax-Discuss Mail List'
> Subject: RE: K10D review online
> 
> 
> it can all be done in the camera using predefined settings in
exactly
> the same way as the conversion to jpeg is done in the camera.
> 
> --
>  Bob
>  
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
> > Behalf Of J. C. O'Connell
> > Sent: 17 December 2006 01:28
> > To: 'Pentax-Discuss Mail List'
> > Subject: RE: K10D review online
> > 
> > I dont follow you, if you have to do this processing
> > at home with special ACR or Pentax sofware to open and 
> print the RAW 
> > files, then its not as "portable" or "universal" a format 
> as jpeg is 
> > which you can print directly from the media card at 
> minilabs, no? that
> 
> > would seem to be a major feature of "shooting jpeg" if thats
> > all you want or need.
> > jco
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
> > Behalf Of
> > Bob W
> > Sent: Saturday, December 16, 2006 4:15 PM
> > To: 'Pentax-Discuss Mail List'
> > Subject: RE: K10D review online
> > 
> > 
> > I don't know what the purpose of the jpeg option is. As far 
> as I can 
> > see, the only benefit of it is to store more pictures on the card.
> > 
> > It is no more difficult to plug the camera into a printer and
> > print from
> > raw files. You can get usable results. Results that are at 
> > least as good
> > as jpeg. 
> > 
> > To the best of my knowledge there are no intrinsic 
> properties of raw 
> > files that force anybody to do any post-processing at all. All of
> the
> > pictures that I have had from my Olympus, for example, have been 
> > perfectly usable without post-processing. Of course, this doesn't
> mean
> > they are exhibition standard. But nor are jpegs under the same 
> > circumstances.
> > 
> > You can do an experiment and judge for yourself rather than
> > take my word
> > for it. Borrow a digital camera, shoot some raw, some jpeg, 
> > and get some
> > prints.
> > 
> > If you think about the processes that are going on, it must be
true.
> 
> > 
> > Suppose you decide that you are going to 'shoot jpeg', which
> > only means
> > you're going to store jpeg. You make an exposure which the sensor
> > records. The software reads the data from the sensor, converts it
to
> > jpeg on the fly and stores the results. 
> > 
> > When you walk up to the printer and plug the camera in, the
> > software in
> > the camera reads the jpeg file and converts it into the 
> > format that the
> > printer understands.
> > 
> > If you decide to shoot raw, then when you make an exposure
> > the software
> > reads the data from the sensor and stores it without converting it
> to
> > jpeg.
> > 
> > When you walk up to the printer and plug the camera in, the
> > software in
> > the camera reads the raw file and converts it into the format that
> the
> > printer understands.
> > 
> > There is no reason at all why the same algorithm that makes
> > jpeg results
> > USABLE, as you put it, wouldn't be used on the conversion from raw
> to
> > the printer format, since both processes start from the same
> > place, and
> > end up in the same place.
> > 
> > --
> >  Bob
> >  
> > 
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
> 
> > > Of J. C. O'Connell
> > > Sent: 16 December 2006 20:45
> > > To: 'Pentax-Discuss Mail List'
> > > Subject: RE: K10D review online
> > > 
> > > But isnt the purpose of using the jpeg output
> > > option of the camera so you can just go
> > > straight to a print lab and print the jpegs
> > > without having to do any digital processing
> > > of the images on a PC or laptop? It sounds
> > > like you cant do RAW and get instant **USABLE**
> > > results which is what I meant.
> > > jco
> > > 
> > 
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