Bob,
I have found the lightroom beta. The greyscale mixer is a big
improvement over the channel mixer. Also found the Exposure demo and
the Photoshop CS3 beta. The CS3 beta includes a new adjustment layer
with the greyscale mixer from lightroom.

Now I have to many options :)

Toine

On 12/17/06, Bob Shell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I'm getting my best general B & W conversions from Adobe's Lightroom
> beta.
>
> If you have money to spend, Alien Skin Software's Exposure is really
> great.  It not only does B & W conversions, it lets you emulate the
> look of a bunch of specific film stocks.  If you like the Tri-X look,
> this software app will let you mimic it very effectively. Go to:
>
> http://www.alienskin.com
>
> You can download demo versions of their software that are fully
> functional for 30 days.
>
> Bob
>
>
> On Dec 16, 2006, at 3:52 PM, Toine wrote:
>
> > I'm experimenting with several techniques for B&W renderings. I tried
> > the channel mixer. At the moment I'm experimenting with the adobe
> > primer:
> > http://www.adobe.com/digitalimag/ps_pro_primers.html
> > Most exposures give nice results and impressing Epson R2400 prints.
> > I fail to get the results I used to get with tri-x and orange or red
> > filters. Most difficult is creating a dramatic sky which was easy
> > using a red filter:
> > http://leende.net/galleries/trix.htm
> > Do I need to tweak my exposure settings, RAW conversion or use orange
> > and red filters. Would you like to share your B&W conversion secrets?
>
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