I won't argue that 1st point... I was objecting to the statement that Pentax 
"decided not to obliterate all the noise and allow some character to show".

I'm sure they wanted it as noise-free as possible.



Tom C.


>From: Paul Stenquist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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>Subject: Re: PESO; A smoke on the sidewalk
>Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2006 17:43:52 -0500
>
>But you're going to have noise at 1600 regardless. So if you can make
>it look more like grain than noise, it's a plus. However, that being
>said, the K10 is no noisier at 1600 than the D, but the look is a bit
>nicer. Quite an achievement, I'd say.
>Paul
>On Dec 21, 2006, at 5:07 PM, Tom C wrote:
>
> > Yes very nice to leave crap lying around in the image... Thanks
> > Pentax,
> > you're managing to reverse 100 years of technology advancements in
> > the field
> > of photography.  :-)
> >
> > Grain has never been the overwhelming desire in the manufacture of
> > film or
> > printing of images except in those relatively rare cases where it's
> > used to
> > an artistic advantage.  Other than that it's reduction has been the
> > holy
> > grail.
> >
> > Come on Shel...
> >
> > Tom C.
> >
> >
> >> From: "Shel Belinkoff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >> Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List <[email protected]>
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> >> Subject: RE: PESO; A smoke on the sidewalk
> >> Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2006 04:36:33 -0800
> >>
> >> Oh, almost forgot .... I really like the grain on this one.  Very
> >> nice the
> >> way Pentax has decided not to obliterate all the noise and allow some
> >> character to show in the images.
> >>
> >> Shel
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>> [Original Message]
> >>> From: Paul Stenquist
> >>
> >>> K10D, DA 50-200 at 200mm. I set my K10D at f6.3, 1/200th. Put the
> >>> camera in TAV mode and let it select the sensitivity. This shot
> >>> came in
> >>> at ISO 1600. Converted to BW in the channel mixture. I like this
> >>> shooting mode. Would not have wanted to think about ISO when I
> >>> pulled
> >>> the trigger on this. But knew what kind of shutter speed and
> >>> aperture I
> >>> wanted. Just an average shot of someone on the street, but a good
> >>> experiment in regard to how I want to work with this camera in these
> >>> kinds of situations.
> >>> http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=5358043
> >>>
> >>> Paul
> >>>
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