I concur. And as Bob said, it's based on experience. I too have the  
flag that was draped over my father's coffin. Like most Americans of  
his generation, my dad was a world war two vet. By the way, he was  
born in Sweden and had been here only a dozen years or so when he was  
called to serve. But he went willingly. Born a Swede, he died an  
American.
Paul
On Jan 8, 2007, at 9:36 PM, Adam Maas wrote:

> Tim Øsleby wrote:
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On  
>> Behalf Of Adam
>> Maas
>> Sent: 9. januar 2007 00:46
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>> Subject: Re: PESO - American Fence
>>
>>> One thing is that Americans tend to have a far more personal
>>> relationship with their flag than most other countries.
>>>
>> Pardon me, but this is nonsense.
>>
>> This assumption is like assuming that gay people feel deeper  
>> because gay
>> bars (according to clichés) are louder.
>>
>> Let me put it this way. I have a very close and personal  
>> relationship with
>> Tiny Tim. But I don't make poster of him ;-)
>
>
> It's not nonsense. It's distinct in my experience with Americans and
> dozens of other nationalities, which indicates that most people
> (including Canadians like myself) tend to talk about their country's
> flag, while Americans tend to talk about 'their' flag. It's a personal
> relationship at a much closer level, the flag is owned by the people,
> not the country. It's by no means universal, but it is far, far more
> prevalent in the US than elsewhere.
>
>
>>
>>> Remember that there's essentially no other
>>> universal symbol of the US, ...
>>
>> This struck another key in me. Could it also be because US  
>> basically is a
>> multiethnic society? I wonder if we have a less diverged culture  
>> in Norway.
>>
>>
>> Tim
>> Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian)
>>
>
> The latter comment is fairly accurate, also it may be because the US
> didn't really evolve an identity like most countries, but explicitly
> attempted to establish a particular one with the War of Independance.
> There really aren't any symbols that are really acceptable to the  
> entire
> country.
>
> -Adam
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