PhotoShop is rather intuitive on a Mac and can be learned quickly as one
works with it. I've never tried it on a PC. Also, there are numerous
plug-ins for PhotoShop that expand it's effects capabilities. 
Paul

Scooterman wrote:
> 
> I'd been using the full-tilt ver of Paint Shop pro for abt a year.
> It replaced the FREE copy of ver 3.1 (that actually works just peachy)...
> actually, BETTER that retail PSP because it readily takes you to the single
> pixel level faster
> 
> I ran into not having enough effects & wanted to make spiffy borders for
> web applications... picture frames actually.
> 
> As a college student, I could get programs for 1/2 off....
> so I ADOBE Page maker (for another project) which contained Photoshop LE...
> they aren't kidding when they mean "Limited Edition".
> 
> I STILL didn't have all the features I wanted, so I dropped the $300 or so
> and got Photoshop 5.0..... not only is it a SOB to learn from scratch
> (I've got an AAs in Computer Science, a BA in MIS, 20+ years as a
> Computerized Numerical Control [CNC] machinist, 8 years as a Computerized
> Coordinate Measuring Machine [CMM] programmer, plus 9-10
> certificates of completion from programming classes, AND I build PC's)....
> so I'm not exactly "computer illiterate".
> 
> PLUS, I still can't make the spiffy picture frames one sees quite often
> on web sites... apparently the "scan masters" (like BlueBird, Enya & etc) use some
> other program.
> 
> For 98% of my images (I've got close to 9gb) I use PaintShop Pro...
> which (IIRC) costs abt $120 retail.
> 
> I also got ADOBE's Acrobat..... which ain't got diddly to do with image handling
> EXCEPT one of the 2 programs contacts ADOBE's website every time I launch it
> and tosses a cookie in my Temp Internet Folder..... most folks wouldn't notice
> (given the high number of AOL/MSIE -happy airheads that don't know what a cookie is
> let alone notice where it went).
> 
> PLUS the apparent ARROGANCE of ADOBE.... their site is more tourist that user 
>friendly.
> (Tourist sites, like those in the REAL WORLD[tm], want you to visit, spend LOTS of
> money, then go the Hell AWAY. Too bad if you want help. Come back & spend more...
> or not because you're taking up space someone else wants... and they have money.)  
>lol
> Know what I mean? The ONLY way I can see me getting FULL value from ADOBE is to
> sign up for the graphic arts program at the college... & they use APPLE exclusively
> (so not only will I have to learn the ADOBE "language", but APPLE as well). Scheesh
> 
> I guess they thought they were like Microsoft's "Flight Simultor" where the
> companion books are the "JEPPS" manual & actual "real life" flight line books.
> And their "built in" picture frames look fine... if you're 8 & it's your first 
>website.
> (The one I really, really, really want is where it looks like a photo "floating"
> above the background color & graduated shadow around it to emphasize that it's a 
>photo
> floating highlighted with an isosceles light source... turned up corner is optional.
> I can do the wave & turned up corner... the shadow is a PITA.)
> 
> If you have the time to sit down, & go step-by-step thru the book's lessons
> to learn Photoshop.... it MAY be more versatile. Good for you because you have
> that kind of time. In the meanwhile, I'll be using PaintShop Pro & getting
> something done.
> 
> PLUS... occasionally I'll download a JPEG that NO program will read...
> till I fire up the KODAK IMAGER utility & resave it. THEN Adobe or PSP can open it.
> Lemme see.... a $300 program won't open the file, but a FREE program (that I didn't
> want on my hard drive to begin with) CAN open it.  Makes sense ..... NOT!
> 
> Scoot
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