Ahh, well--if you are going to buy the wrong tool for the job, half-price
is quite a bargain.

<g>

Dan Scott
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Scooterman wrote:
>I'd been using the full-tilt ver of Paint Shop pro for abt a year.
>It replaced the FREE copy of ver 3.1 (that actually works just peachy)...
>actually, BETTER that retail PSP because it readily takes you to the single
>pixel level faster
>
>I ran into not having enough effects & wanted to make spiffy borders for
>web applications... picture frames actually.
>
>As a college student, I could get programs for 1/2 off....
>so I ADOBE Page maker (for another project) which contained Photoshop LE...
>they aren't kidding when they mean "Limited Edition".
>
>I STILL didn't have all the features I wanted, so I dropped the $300 or so
>and got Photoshop 5.0..... not only is it a SOB to learn from scratch
>(I've got an AAs in Computer Science, a BA in MIS, 20+ years as a
>Computerized Numerical Control [CNC] machinist, 8 years as a Computerized
>Coordinate Measuring Machine [CMM] programmer, plus 9-10
>certificates of completion from programming classes, AND I build PC's)....
>so I'm not exactly "computer illiterate".
>
>PLUS, I still can't make the spiffy picture frames one sees quite often
>on web sites... apparently the "scan masters" (like BlueBird, Enya & etc)
>use some
>other program.
>
>For 98% of my images (I've got close to 9gb) I use PaintShop Pro...
>which (IIRC) costs abt $120 retail.
>
>I also got ADOBE's Acrobat..... which ain't got diddly to do with image
>handling
>EXCEPT one of the 2 programs contacts ADOBE's website every time I launch it
>and tosses a cookie in my Temp Internet Folder..... most folks wouldn't notice
>(given the high number of AOL/MSIE -happy airheads that don't know what a
>cookie is
>let alone notice where it went).
>
>PLUS the apparent ARROGANCE of ADOBE.... their site is more tourist that
>user friendly.
>(Tourist sites, like those in the REAL WORLD[tm], want you to visit, spend
>LOTS of
>money, then go the Hell AWAY. Too bad if you want help. Come back & spend
>more...
>or not because you're taking up space someone else wants... and they have
>money.)  lol
>Know what I mean? The ONLY way I can see me getting FULL value from ADOBE
>is to
>sign up for the graphic arts program at the college... & they use APPLE
>exclusively
>(so not only will I have to learn the ADOBE "language", but APPLE as
>well). Scheesh
>
>I guess they thought they were like Microsoft's "Flight Simultor" where the
>companion books are the "JEPPS" manual & actual "real life" flight line books.
>And their "built in" picture frames look fine... if you're 8 & it's your
>first website.
>(The one I really, really, really want is where it looks like a photo
>"floating"
>above the background color & graduated shadow around it to emphasize that
>it's a photo
>floating highlighted with an isosceles light source... turned up corner is
>optional.
>I can do the wave & turned up corner... the shadow is a PITA.)
>
>If you have the time to sit down, & go step-by-step thru the book's lessons
>to learn Photoshop.... it MAY be more versatile. Good for you because you have
>that kind of time. In the meanwhile, I'll be using PaintShop Pro & getting
>something done.
>
>PLUS... occasionally I'll download a JPEG that NO program will read...
>till I fire up the KODAK IMAGER utility & resave it. THEN Adobe or PSP can
>open it.
>Lemme see.... a $300 program won't open the file, but a FREE program (that
>I didn't
>want on my hard drive to begin with) CAN open it.  Makes sense ..... NOT!
>
>Scoot
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