[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> In a message dated 3/12/2007 7:47:54 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time,  
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> Er, no.  The crops would be slightly  more expensive but would still be there.
> 
> ============
> Citizens, on the  whole, won't pick crops.
> 
> In California, the biggest pool of  housecleaners, caregivers, gardeners, and 
> casual day laborers (mainly  construction), is also illegals. No one else 
> will do the work. In my immediate  area there are a lot of Tongans filling 
> those 
> posts. Not all CA illegals are  Latino. Any country that has a depressed 
> economy will have some illegals in  California. The average stay for an 
> illegal is 
> two years. They make their money  and go home.(I saw the results of study 
> once, though admittedly a study was  probably hard to do.) I used to live in 
> an 
> area with a check cashing place that  I used. That area also had a lot of 
> illegals -- they used the check cashing  place to send money home each week. 
> It also 
> had a phone where they could call  home if they paid enough.
> 
> Besides we have to compete with places like  Mexico that grow crops where the 
> pickers are paid squat. (Not to mention that  small CA farmers, as in not 
> agribusiness, operate on small margins). And other  foreign countries were 
> the 
> pay is terrible. Competing with third world countries  is just a fact of life 
> now.
> 
> If decent wages had to be paid for all crop  picking, decent enough for no 
> illegals being hired, most of CA's remaining  agricultural would crash 
> (despite 
> agribusiness and some crops that don't have to  be picked by hand. There are 
> many hand picked crops here.). In fact, several  small economies in CA would 
> crash.

I saw some figures recently that suggested that the labour cost involved 
in crop picking was somewhat less than 1/10th of the retail price at the 
most.  You could double the wages and the retail price would only go up 
marginally.  Most cost is added by the middlemen who do nothing but move 
the stuff around.

>  
> What is and what "should be" are two different things.
> 
> Marnie aka  Doe 
>  
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