Yes, it is different.  The Press here actively works against the 
government, sometimes for ideological reasons, sometimes for other 
reasons. This makes it much more likely that lies will be uncovered.  
Most politicians and bureaucrats know that.  Currently in Venezuela you 
won't be operating your press for long if you print something the 
Government disagrees with.  Besides it's just not credible that the DEA 
would act as a drug cartel.  High handed? Yes.  Authoritarian? Given the 
chance, Yes.  But the lie just isn't credible.  But you see the Chavez 
regime just doesn't care, they can say anything they like and no one 
will oppose them for long.

mike wilson wrote:
>> From: "P. J. Alling" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> Date: 2007/05/09 Wed PM 02:27:40 GMT
>> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List <[email protected]>
>> Subject: Re: OT: rootbeer?
>>
>> Interesting, but I wouldn't believe a word that comes out of Caracas, 
>> any more than I'd believe a word published in Pravda, (obviously the 
>> Russians didn't since with the end of the Soviet Union it too 
>> disappeared).  The DEA is many things, some very bad in my opinion, but 
>> drug traffickers?  That simply strains credibility past the limit.  The 
>> current Venezuelan government giving covert support to drug cartels, 
>> that's believable since it's in it's interest to make the US look bad 
>> and cause the US as much trouble as possible..
>>     
>
> And the reverse isn't?
>
>   
>>  
>> mike wilson wrote:
>>     
>>>> From: Scott Loveless <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>> Date: 2007/05/08 Tue PM 07:41:36 GMT
>>>> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List <[email protected]>
>>>> Subject: Re: OT: rootbeer?
>>>>
>>>> Adam Maas wrote:
>>>>     
>>>>         
>>>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>   
>>>>>       
>>>>>           
>>>>>> In a message dated 5/8/2007 6:54:00 A.M. Pacific  Daylight Time, 
>>>>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
>>>>>> "Everything not prohibited is  mandatory!" The only reason drugs were 
>>>>>> made illegal in the US is because  good old J Edgar Hoover blackmailed 
>>>>>> them into making them illegal so he  would not have to disband the FBI 
>>>>>> when prohibition was ended. Orwell had no  imagination.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ==========
>>>>>> Think that's it? I've often wondered by  whom and when some drugs were 
>>>>>> made 
>>>>>> illegal. Since many like the cocaine in coke,  opium in laudanum, etc. 
>>>>>> were 
>>>>>> legal for a long, long time.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Marnie aka Doe  
>>>>>>  
>>>>>>
>>>>>>     
>>>>>>         
>>>>>>             
>>>>> The banning of Marijuana is at least indirectly related to racism (it 
>>>>> was seen as a 'Negro Vice' in the first half of the 20th century).
>>>>>
>>>>> Some are still legal from prescription sources (cocaine is used 
>>>>> occasionally for medicine, Morphine is actually made from opium).
>>>>>
>>>>> -Adam
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>   
>>>>>       
>>>>>           
>>>> I read somewhere (can't remember where right now) that drug laws in the 
>>>> US actually got their start in California as a ban on either opium or 
>>>> opium dens.  The laws were designed to target Chinese immigrants.
>>>>     
>>>>         
>>> The more things change......
>>> http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070507/ap_on_re_la_am_ca/venezuela_us_drugs
>>>
>>> Excerpt:
>>> CARACAS, Venezuela - Venezuela on Monday said it will not allow U.S. agents 
>>> to carry out counter-drug operations in the country, accusing the U.S. Drug 
>>> Enforcement Administration of being a "new cartel" that aids traffickers. 
>>>
>>> Justice Minister Pedro Carreno said the South American nation suspended 
>>> cooperation with the agency in 2005 after determining that "they were 
>>> moving a large amount of drugs." President Hugo Chavez at the time also 
>>> accused the DEA of spying. 
>>>
>>> "The United States with its DEA monopolizes the shipping of drugs like a 
>>> cartel," Carreno told reporters. "We determined that we were evidently in 
>>> the presence of a new cartel." He did not elaborate. 
>>>
>>> Spokesman Brian Penn said the U.S. Embassy categorically denies the 
>>> accusation and called the DEA "the leading agency combatting drug 
>>> trafficking around the world." 
>>>
>>> "We'd like to cooperate with Venezuela to not only increase the number of 
>>> seizures in Venezuela but also to help them to prosecute narcotraffickers 
>>> who are operating in Venezuelan territory. We think sharing of information 
>>> can aid Venezuela in this," Penn said. 
>>>
>>> Washington has repeatedly accused Venezuela of not cooperating in 
>>> counter-drug efforts and says cocaine shipments are increasingly passing 
>>> through the country from neighboring Colombia.
>>>
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