Thank you, Adam, for your detailed commentary.  Also, I thank  
everyone else who has responded--even the fellow who said I should  
have bought a Pentax (Dave, I think) :-)

Adam: I tried dialing-in the -0.7 FEC value you suggest.  It seems  
the N80 will take only 1/2 increments (-0.5, -1.0, etc.).  I do not  
see any other way to set it.  Is there something I am missing?  Also,  
if I am correct about this, would -0.5 be sufficient, or would I be  
wasting my time?...or is this just another reason to look into an  
F100 (as you have suggested)?

Glen

On Oct 3, 2007, at 9:47 AM, Adam Maas wrote:

> Glen Tortorella wrote:
>> Hi all,
>>
>> Since I have a new, more "advanced" body, the N80, I tried taking
>> some shots I would have avoided in the past.  The results were  
>> awful--
>> not one good shot on the entire role, a miserable 0-for-24 (Kodak
>> Gold 200).
>>
>> In the past, I would avoid two types of shots: 1) indoor shots and 2)
>> outdoor "high sun" shots in the fair weather months (i.e. during the
>> hours of about 10:00-4:00).  In doing so, I have assured myself
>> decent, but not necessarily perfect, results.  Since the N80 has a
>> better metering system (10-segment) and a pop-up flash that is
>> supposed to be pretty good, I figured: "let me see what it can do."
>> As I have said, the results were dreadful.  Here are the main issues.
>>
>> 1) Every indoor flash shot showed at least moderate spotlight/wash-
>> out effect of the subject (people).
>
> Dial in -0.7 stops of Flash exposure compensation when shooting  
> people with Nikon flashes (including the popup). Leave this  
> permanently dialed in.
>
>> 2) On the outdoor "high sun" shots, the camera turned a seemingly
>> minor shadows (through the viewfinder) on the subject's face into a
>> black blobs that covered almost all of the subject's face.
>
> Add flash, leave the -0.7 stops of FEC dialed in.
>
>> 3) When taking indoor shots with the flash, I would meter (10-
>> segment) something like 1/30 or 1/45 or perhaps 1/60 at, say, f2.
>> With the flash powered up, I do not think it ever metered
>> differently.  For example, 1/30 at f/2 was still 1/30 at f/2 with the
>> flash enabled.  Is this correct, or is there something wrong with my
>> camera?
>
> That is correct, the N80 will attempt to balance the exposure if it  
> can get the shutter between 1/125 and 1/30 or so, with a slight  
> bias towards the flash illumination (hence the FEC I recommend). If  
> you want a pure flash exposure, shoot in manual.
>
>
>> 4) The one decent shot in the whole role--an indoor shot using only
>> available light...go figure?--was spoiled by some sort of small speck
>> on the subject's face.  I usually keep my filter free of dust, etc.
>> Could this speck have appeared as a result of the cheap processing I
>> used (Wal-Mart C-41)?
>
> Probably. Check your negs.
>
>>
>> I know that using a fill flash may have alleviated the problem
>> expressed in issue number 2, but, since I have had my subjects turn a
>> bit ghastly by using the flash, I am hesitant to use it indoors or
>> outdoors.  I would appreciate any advice or commentary (or even pep
>> talk), as I am pretty down about this.  What good is a more
>> "advanced" camera if I cannot even come remotely close to
>> satisfactory results on the more difficult shots (i.e. indoor, "high
>> sun," etc.)?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Glen
>>
>>
>
> Fill flash is your friend, but remember direct flash always looks a  
> bit ghastly. A (cheap) SB-24 and an SC-17 or SC-28 cord will get  
> the flash off-camera with full TTL, and is a much better option.
>
> -Adam
>
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